Nuke Redmond!

[Richard Pope]

Hello all,
     The problem as I see it are all of the sheep that buy 
pre-configured boxes from the likes of Dell and other such providers. 
They don't get the OS disc. They only receive restore discs. Most of 
these users only know how to turn on the power and operate the keyboard 
and/or mouse. They have no understanding of how the system works just 
like most people who drive have no understanding of how an automobile works.
     I have never bought a pre-configured box. I always built my own. I 
started with a VIC-20 that I add a lot of extras to. I then went to a 
C-64, a C-128, an Amiga 1000, Amiga 2000, Amiga 4000 and Amiga 4000T. I 
modified all of these systems in lots of ways. I finally gave in because 
of game availability and built my first PC clone and installed Win-95 on 
it. I also had MS-Dos installed on it. I continued to use my A4000T in 
conjunction with the Win 95 box. I networked my A4000T box with the Win 
95 box using ARCNet. I also went the upgrade route with MS. WinNT, 
Win2000, WinXP, and now Win 8.1 Pro. I have also dabbled in Linux but 
the games always brought me back to Windoze.
     So I have some knowledge and ability concerning computers and how 
they work where most users have almost zero knowledge and ability.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 10/7/2019 10:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> Its been a while but same game and I'm not a player.
>
> I just don't run windows.  I jumped that ship back in 06 when
> burned on NT.  Since then its Linux.  If you play in the swamp
> of M$ then your run all the risks and costs.  Its just not good
> enough to be worth the pain.  Any new machine I might buy must
> be bare or come with Linux and in the past Asus did a few that
> I still run.  If not I default to ITX/miniITX boards/boxes as
> they are easily gotten bare.
>
> It also reminded me of Micro$soft Roads, a few of us likely
> remember that one too.
>
> Wait till M$ AI on your car decides some roads do not meet the
> terms of service and refuses to go there.
>
> Since schools and Uni's all seem to be M$ based maybe the terms
> of service are in effect there.
>
> And tubes... I'm like one of the few here that knows how to design
> with them because I did.
>
> Allison
>
>
> On 10/7/19 10:54 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
>>> downloaded for free is meaningless to the actual case.  Not saying I
>>> agree with the law they got him on as there should be some exceptions
>>> but facts are the facts.  Btw. This was the first version of the story
>>> I read that mentioned that Microsoft sold replacement restore disks to
>>> computer refurbish shops themselves.
>> I thought Microsoft would refer you to Dell, and Dell would be the ones
>> to sell them.
>>
>> Had the discs not looked like the original restore discs then he might
>> of gotten away with it? Trademark infringement and all. Fake Louie.
>>
>> It's stupid. It really is a mess trying to restore the OS when the hard
>> drive dies on machines that ship with recovery partitions and no media.
>>
>> I mean, the fact the restore media is on a CD/DVD just says that it's
>> for old crusty computers.
>>
>> New machines have the license keys baked into the BIOS, the Windows tax
>> is built in.
>>
>> But the Netflix Bill Gates docuemntary says he is cool so the young
>> people trust Microsoft. And of course the beautiful machines Apple was
>> making kind of went to hell as they focus on telephones, which are
>> declining.
>>
>> Pretty much trapped.
>>
>>              - Ethan
>>
>>> Now if I made a copy of Raiders for someone else or copied it off a
>>> free TV transmission and sold DVDs of that, it would be a crime since
>>> there still is a way to buy a replacement DVD or watch/DVR it on free
>>> TV when it happens to be on.
>> But that is different as Windows is protected by a software key, so the
>> restore disc is useless without it.
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Corey
>>>
>>> corey cohen
>>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:15 AM, John Foust via cctalk
>>>> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At 05:51 AM 10/7/2019, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
>>>>> Must be the USA PC World. In the UK they would have tried to sell
>>>>> you an extended warranty as well which is really just an insurance
>>>>> policy....
>>>>> .. but the question is why PC World. Don't US universities have
>>>>> student discount stores?
>>>> University student discount stores?  You mean those state-sponsored
>>>> computer shops that put all the private computer shops out of business?
>>>>
>>>> Only 1.2 :-), as for example in a nearby (10K student) university town,
>>>> there are no longer any private computer repair shops that a non-student
>>>> can go to as far as I can tell, so I'm actually picking up more business
>>>> because I'm one town away.
>>>>
>>>> - John
>>>>
>> -- 
>> : Ethan O'Toole
>>
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