Network cards and Win98SE
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Tue May 14 13:58:54 CDT 2019
On 5/14/19 12:16 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> No, not really. The OP was trying to get wifi working on Win98. That's
> not the same thing.
The letter of what the OP wanted was WiFi. I took the spirit of what
the OP wanted was network.
> You jumped to a conclusion.
No I did not.
I responded to comment where someone else said "you may want to consider
… using a cheap wifi-equipped micro as a network bridge".
I stated "IMHO the OPZ would be functioning as what I think are commonly
called 'gaming adapters'. It functions as the wireless client to
connect the wired Ethernet client." The key points being:
- "IMHO" meaning in my humble opinion
- "functioning as" meaning doing the same / similar thing as
- "what I /think/" as in what I believe but could be wrong about
- "commonly called" as in not always
- "it functions as a wireless client to connect the wired Ethernet
client." as in it's a way to connect a wired only device to a wireless
> Then, you declared, rudely, the OP that they should buy something,
How does "OPZ would be functioning as" translate to the OP should buy
> by repeatedly, derisively, using a name that might be meaningful to
> millennial gamers,
Many of the people in my community are decidedly outside of the
millennial gamers group and know what a gaming adapter is.
I have no idea what age range people on this mailing list are—I honestly
don't care—but I strongly suspect that more people now know what a
gaming adapter is than did so before the start of this thread.
> but is _not_ to a bunch of old-timer high-level techies.
Please don't conflate age with level of techies.
I've worked with all four combinations of the binary young / old vs
techie / non-techie.
> Also, your idea meant going out and spending money on something new,
No, it did not.
> when this is a community of people who you could reasonably expect to
> favour the approach of doing something difficult but functional with
> existing tech that they already own.
That's one of the reasons that I enjoy this community. I re-use things
for different purposes all the time. I enjoy seeing how others solve
> You told someone who is trying to do something on a 20-25 year old OS
> in order that they can connect to a 40 year old OS, that they should be
> buying a peripheral for a games console.
No I did not.
>  You did not "suggest". You hectored, rudely.
I was not intend to be rude. I apologize to anyone that thought I was rude.
>  You did not _explain_ that. You just repeated some buzzword phrase
> nobody else here knows.
My original comment stated "It functions as the wireless client to
connect the wired Ethernet client."
>  You didn't explain that, either.
> You mean if you addressed the OP and the rest of us as competent adults
> instead of poking fun?
I continue to believe that I have addressed everyone in this thread as
I did not intentionally try to poke fun at anyone.
Believe me, when I say that I'm much more of an ass hole if I want to be
and try to poke at someone.
> Shock horror, yeah, that might have worked better.
> WE ARE NOT ALL AMERICAN.
What does American have to do with this?
Are you implying that American ~> U.S. English dialect is different than
other English dialects around the world and that those differences were
part of a breakdown in communications?
> Yeah you were.
No, I was not. See the bullet points above.
> They are, until someone comes along and starts implying they are stupid,
> which is what you did.
How did I imply that anyone is stupid?
I apologize if I did so. That was certainly not my intent.
> Good. Have you worked out _why_ people were upset with you?
> Have you worked out what you did and how not to do it again?
The only thing that I wish I had done differently was not used the
phrase "gaming adapter". I see no problems with anything else that I've
> Have you decided to change?
I'm still open to feedback & critique.
> Look, *I* am someone who has, justly, been told off for being rude and
> dismissive here. I very much fear that I have caused people to quit the
> list, and I bitterly regret that.
I think some of your comments have been curt. But I don't consider
"curt" to be "rude".
> But I have tried hard to *learn* from that, and I do not want to do
> it again.
Good for you.
> Whereas you seem to feel that you were in the right all along and we've
I'm not saying I am in the right. I am saying that I don't think I'm in
To me, there is a relatively neutral state in the middle, which is where
I think I am.
> I think you should reconsider and try to use this as a learning
I try to learn from things that I experience daily. I think most people
There is a reason that I'm trying to defuse what I am currently chalking
up to miscommunication based on a number of misunderstandings on
multiple people's part. I'm trying to turn this into a constructive
conversation to learn from and avoid this type of issue in the future.
Grant. . . .
unix || die
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