17 Apr
2023
17 Apr
'23
12:17 p.m.
Glad the photos help. I hope the average general public wasn't too
disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think
of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at
all. A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line
- some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to
find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience.
For exhibits, the interior noise/acustics got loud and made hard to engage
and ask questions (since you couldn't even hear them across the table).
I also felt a little guilty of intentionally getting there early to get a
close parking spot. I mean, I don't think there is anything really wrong
with that - but if I know I'm going to be there all day, I wouldn't mind
parking further away and taking a shuttle bus. In my defense, I knew I'd
be getting things from consignment and wanted to drop them back to the car
(I just got some of the laptops).
Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very
appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I don't want to know!?
I'm on travel again for the rest of this week, so kind of rushed to get
notes up today before heading back to the airport.
-Steve
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:04 PM Brian L. Stuart <blstuart(a)bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Thank you very much for posting these pictures. I
ended up having to
cancel my plans at the last minute due to covid. Yeah, I had succeeded
in avoiding it for 3 years, but it finally caught up to me.
BLS
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 05:39:04 PM UTC, Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events
I've been to. Link is below.
Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe
didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe
they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to
present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out
next time.
Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also.
https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/
Feel free to use/share, no permission needed.
17 Apr
17 Apr
12:50 p.m.
New subject: VCF East 2023 photos
Most of these photos were from the 9032 room, not the ballroom's exhibits,
but I will share my photos asap too as will others.
B
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 3:18 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Glad the photos help. I hope the average general
public wasn't too
disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think
of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at
all. A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line
- some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to
find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience.
For exhibits, the interior noise/acustics got loud and made hard to engage
and ask questions (since you couldn't even hear them across the table).
I also felt a little guilty of intentionally getting there early to get a
close parking spot. I mean, I don't think there is anything really wrong
with that - but if I know I'm going to be there all day, I wouldn't mind
parking further away and taking a shuttle bus. In my defense, I knew I'd
be getting things from consignment and wanted to drop them back to the car
(I just got some of the laptops).
Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very
appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I don't want to know!?
I'm on travel again for the rest of this week, so kind of rushed to get
notes up today before heading back to the airport.
-Steve
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:04 PM Brian L. Stuart <blstuart(a)bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Thank you very much for posting these pictures.
I ended up having to
cancel my plans at the last minute due to covid. Yeah, I had succeeded
in avoiding it for 3 years, but it finally caught up to me.
BLS
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 05:39:04 PM UTC, Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of
events
I've been to. Link is below.
Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe
didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or,
maybe
they didn't get to see what all else the
museum and local area had to
present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out
next time.
Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also.
https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/
Feel free to use/share, no permission needed.
2:40 p.m.
New subject: VCF East 2023 photos
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:17 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Glad the photos help. I hope the average general
public wasn't too
disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think
of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at
all. A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line
- some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to
find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience.
It shouldn't be "part of the experience". It's poor planning and poor
management of the consignment area on the part of the organizers. This
same thing happened at VCF "West" last year and it was a catastrophe.
There was a line snaking down the hallway at least a fifty people deep and
they were waiting for 2-3 HOURS before it actually started moving. That
was 2-3 hours that attendees weren't in the exhibit/speaker hall engaging
with the exhibitors and their exhibits, and listening to the speakers. I'm
really disappointed to hear that, despite their prior experience, it seems
like they have not done anything to address this completely unacceptable
and entirely avoidable scenario.
Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very
appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I
don't want to know!?
3am? If that was happening around here then the shotgun would get
involved. Must be mating season.
Sellam
3:57 p.m.
New subject: VCF East 2023 photos
On 04/17/2023 9:40 PM GMT Sellam Abraham via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
3am? If that was happening around here then the shotgun would get
involved. Must be mating season.
The next-to-last time I was in Canada, they let me sleep in all the way to 5am.
Also note that they were *right* outside the window in my room.
The only bad thing about my trip.
mcl
18 Apr
18 Apr
11:04 a.m.
New subject: VCF East 2023 photos
It shouldn't be "part of the
experience". It's poor planning and poor
management of the consignment area on the part of the organizers. This
same thing happened at VCF "West" last year and it was a catastrophe.
There was a line snaking down the hallway at least a fifty people deep and
they were waiting for 2-3 HOURS before it actually started moving. That
was 2-3 hours that attendees weren't in the exhibit/speaker hall engaging
with the exhibitors and their exhibits, and listening to the speakers. I'm
really disappointed to hear that, despite their prior experience, it seems
like they have not done anything to address this completely unacceptable
and entirely avoidable scenario.
Every bit of space that is currently available at InfoAge was used for the
event. Attendence jumped over prior years and the demand was
unpredictable. The weather in that area can be cold and rainy so outdoors
use is limited in planning. I figured there would be blowout attendence at
the 3pm streamer panel in Saturday, but crowd wasn't an issue. Meanwhile
at the dedicated swap meets at InfoAge attendence wasn't that crazy at the
last one. Maybe it's because it's tax return time?
If VCF could raise enough money to finish off their new space at InfoAge
and get a CO that would help a ton next year. But that is quite a bit of
money intertwined with government legal red tape.
Trust me there will be big discussions about how to try to fix it for the
future.
Also the event could use more volunteers for next year as well.
- Ethan
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