13 Jul
2024
13 Jul
'24
4:12 p.m.
Just received a message from a friend mentioning stuff from the LCM is to be in a
Christie’s auction in Aug-Sep.
Online auction, viewing in Seattle by appointment.
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
<https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-paul-g-allen-collection-23618-nyc>
This appears to be just an upcoming auction advisory, there’s very little info.
"CDC-5000 and Cray 2 will be offered alongside their miniaturized predecessors in
the Altair 8800 and Apple-1"
CDC-5000 ?
predecessors ?
13 Jul
13 Jul
8:32 p.m.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024, 1:28 PM Brent Hilpert via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Just received a message from a friend mentioning stuff
from the LCM is to
be in a Christie’s auction in Aug-Sep.
Online auction, viewing in Seattle by appointment.
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
<
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
This appears to be just an upcoming auction advisory, there’s very little
info.
"CDC-5000 and Cray 2 will be offered alongside their miniaturized
predecessors in the Altair 8800 and Apple-1"
CDC-5000 ?
predecessors ?
It's Christie's. They're basically idiots.
Sellam
8:44 p.m.
…catering to rich idiots.
//m
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 10:33 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024, 1:28 PM Brent Hilpert via cctalk
<
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
This appears to be just an upcoming auction advisory, there’s very little
info.
"CDC-5000 and Cray 2 will be offered alongside their miniaturized
predecessors in the Altair 8800 and Apple-1"
CDC-5000 ?
predecessors ?
It's Christie's. They're basically idiots.
Sellam
Just received a message from a friend mentioning
stuff from the LCM is to
be in a Christie’s auction in Aug-Sep.
Online auction, viewing in Seattle by appointment.
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
<
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
8:43 p.m.
I'm definitely a bit sad that Purdue's former CDC 6500 (priming that's what
they meant) will probably go to some unknown high dollar bidder.
Patrick Finnegan
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024, 16:20 Brent Hilpert via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Just received a message from a friend mentioning stuff
from the LCM is to
be in a Christie’s auction in Aug-Sep.
Online auction, viewing in Seattle by appointment.
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
<
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
This appears to be just an upcoming auction advisory, there’s very little
info.
"CDC-5000 and Cray 2 will be offered alongside their miniaturized
predecessors in the Altair 8800 and Apple-1"
CDC-5000 ?
predecessors ?
14 Jul
14 Jul
12:14 a.m.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 08:43:59PM -0400, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote:
I'm definitely a bit sad that Purdue's former
CDC 6500 (priming that's what
they meant) will probably go to some unknown high dollar bidder.
Patrick Finnegan
Same here. I'm pretty sure I ran some code on that machine
back in grad school. The whole thing is depressing.
BLS
9:47 a.m.
On 7/13/24 21:14, Brian L. Stuart via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 08:43:59PM -0400, Patrick
Finnegan via cctalk wrote:
> I'm definitely a bit sad that Purdue's former CDC 6500 (priming that's
what
> they meant) will probably go to some unknown high dollar bidder.
Yup, ran code on that thing when it was running Purdue's version of
MACE. Never asked Greg or Dr. Dave what part they had in that.
--Chuck
15 Jul
15 Jul
8:16 a.m.
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote:
I'm definitely a bit sad that Purdue's former
CDC 6500 (priming that's what
they meant) will probably go to some unknown high dollar bidder.
Who'll then convert it or embed in pieces into a furniture set to impress
guests, because why not. Sigh.
Maciej
2:47 p.m.
Who'll then convert it or embed in pieces into a
furniture set to impress
guests, because why not. Sigh.
To be honest, Elon was the other person who was really interested in AI,
and now that I think about it he may have been a better custodian.
I mean sure: He would have just stuck it on the top of a Falcon rocket
and blasted it into space, but then we all would know exactly where it
was, and the steps needed to retrieve it if necessary.
Hm.
CZ
13 Jul
13 Jul
9:50 p.m.
Thanks for the notice. Not that any of us will be high bidders but good to
at least follow along with the community that cares.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024, 3:20 PM Brent Hilpert via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Just received a message from a friend mentioning stuff
from the LCM is to
be in a Christie’s auction in Aug-Sep.
Online auction, viewing in Seattle by appointment.
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
<
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
This appears to be just an upcoming auction advisory, there’s very little
info.
"CDC-5000 and Cray 2 will be offered alongside their miniaturized
predecessors in the Altair 8800 and Apple-1"
CDC-5000 ?
predecessors ?
14 Jul
14 Jul
12:27 p.m.
Thanks for the notice. Not that any of us will be high
bidders but good to
at least follow along with the community that cares.
I'd be happy if a rich person bought the stuff, at least it would not be
scrapped. But I'm still guessing the "prettiest" things will be sold at
auction and the rest of it will go to a big "scrap" bid.
If you care, bid the price above the scrap value. Otherwise you know
what's going to happen (ie: the usual)
CZ
On Sat, Jul 13, 2024, 3:20 PM Brent Hilpert via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Just received a message from a friend mentioning stuff from the LCM is to
> be in a Christie’s auction in Aug-Sep.
> Online auction, viewing in Seattle by appointment.
>
>
>
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
> <
>
https://www.christies.com/auction/firsts-the-history-of-computing-from-the-…
>>
>
> This appears to be just an upcoming auction advisory, there’s very little
> info.
>
> "CDC-5000 and Cray 2 will be offered alongside their miniaturized
> predecessors in the Altair 8800 and Apple-1"
>
> CDC-5000 ?
> predecessors ?
1:14 p.m.
If you care, bid the price above the scrap value.
Otherwise you know
what's going to happen (ie: the usual)
This right here.
If you aren't willing to pay scrap value, then the item is going to be considered
scrap. #1 (only?) positive to old computer junk becoming valuable is now folks know
it's worth more than scrap.
Thanks,
Jonathan
4:54 p.m.
On Jul 14, 2024, at 10:22, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I doubt that any of the items going to auction at Christie’s is going to be anything that
would sell for scrap value. That isn’t an auction house that scrap dealers frequent.
It is the stuff not deemed good enough for Christie’s that is at risk of being scrapped.
alan
If you care, bid the price above the scrap value. Otherwise you know
what's going to happen (ie: the usual)
This right here.
If you aren't willing to pay scrap value, then the item is going to be considered
scrap. #1 (only?) positive to old computer junk becoming valuable is now folks know
it's worth more than scrap. 
5:16 p.m.
On 7/14/2024 4:54 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
The natural question to ask is then; "What happens to all the non-big
ticket items? " The museum must have had a collection of junk to
treasure, what is going to happen to the pedestrian stuff? You know,
the kind of stuff we dabble in.
Doug
On Jul 14, 2024, at 10:22, Jonathan Chapman via
cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I doubt that any of the items going to auction at
Christie’s is going to be anything that would sell for scrap value. That isn’t an auction
house that scrap dealers frequent.
It is the stuff not deemed good enough for Christie’s that is at risk of being scrapped.
alan
If you care, bid the price above the scrap value.
Otherwise you know
what's going to happen (ie: the usual)
This right here.
If you aren't willing to pay scrap value, then the item is going to be considered
scrap. #1 (only?) positive to old computer junk becoming valuable is now folks know
it's worth more than scrap.
5:45 p.m.
Well, a contract is secured with a trusted trasher to come in and clear
the place out. Much like what happens when an old person dies. They come
in, load up trucks, take it to the recycling center and get an
appropriately sized check.
No point dealing with little money things. The goal is to get rid of
everything, not to sit there and preserve stuff.
C
On 7/14/2024 5:16 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 7/14/2024 4:54 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
The natural question to ask is then; "What happens to all the non-big
ticket items? " The museum must have had a collection of junk to
treasure, what is going to happen to the pedestrian stuff? You know,
the kind of stuff we dabble in.
Doug
On Jul 14, 2024, at 10:22, Jonathan Chapman via
cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I doubt that
any of the items going to auction at Christie’s is going
to be anything that would sell for scrap value. That isn’t an auction
house that scrap dealers frequent.
It is the stuff not deemed good enough for Christie’s that is at risk
of being scrapped.
alan
If you care, bid the price above the scrap value.
Otherwise you know
what's going to happen (ie: the usual)
This right here.
If you aren't willing to pay scrap value, then the item is going to
be considered scrap. #1 (only?) positive to old computer junk
becoming valuable is now folks know it's worth more than scrap. 
5:48 p.m.
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 17:45, cz via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Well, a contract is secured with a trusted trasher to
come in and clear
the place out. Much like what happens when an old person dies. They come
in, load up trucks, take it to the recycling center and get an
appropriately sized check.
No point dealing with little money things. The goal is to get rid of
everything, not to sit there and preserve stuff.
Unless you know something that the rest of us don't, it is pure speculation
that this is what is going to happen in the case of the LCM. All of the
threads on this topic have been full of speculation to greater and lesser
degrees and it's very frustrating.
-Henry
7:44 p.m.
On 7/14/24 2:48 PM, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 17:45, cz via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have sent a letter to the Museum asking that am item that I donated be
returned for violation of the terms of the deed of trust. I have not yet
received a response. I doubt that it will be in the Christie's auction,
but, if it is, I will notify them of this. I am also trying to figure
what legal options that I have, even if it will cost more than what the
item is worth.
alan
Well, a contract is secured with a trusted
trasher to come in and clear
the place out. Much like what happens when an old person dies. They come
in, load up trucks, take it to the recycling center and get an
appropriately sized check.
No point dealing with little money things. The goal is to get rid of
everything, not to sit there and preserve stuff.
Unless you know something that the rest of us don't, it is pure speculation
that this is what is going to happen in the case of the LCM. All of the
threads on this topic have been full of speculation to greater and lesser
degrees and it's very frustrating. 
7:47 p.m.
Get an attorney. They will respond more quickly to an attorney. You’ll have to provide
proof of your claims, though.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2024, at 16:44, Alan Perry via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 7/14/24 2:48 PM, Henry Bent via cctalk
wrote:
I have sent a letter to the Museum asking that am item that I donated be returned for
violation of the terms of the deed of trust. I have not yet received a response. I doubt
that it will be in the Christie's auction, but, if it is, I will notify them of this.
I am also trying to figure what legal options that I have, even if it will cost more than
what the item is worth.
alan
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 17:45, cz via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Well, a contract is secured with a trusted trasher to come in and clear
the place out. Much like what happens when an old person dies. They come
in, load up trucks, take it to the recycling center and get an
appropriately sized check.
No point dealing with little money things. The goal is to get rid of
everything, not to sit there and preserve stuff.
Unless you know something that the rest of us don't, it is pure speculation
that this is what is going to happen in the case of the LCM. All of the
threads on this topic have been full of speculation to greater and lesser
degrees and it's very frustrating.
15 Jul
15 Jul
7:07 p.m.
On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 4:47 PM Wayne S via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Get an attorney. They will respond more quickly to an
attorney. You’ll
have to provide proof of your claims, though.
This is one reason that long term loans of historical artifacts are
sometimes used with museums rather than gifts. But then it gets down to
who you trust more. Your heirs or trustees, of the board/director or
trustees of the museum. Either can smell a tidy profit from a long way
off.
14 Jul
14 Jul
6:13 p.m.
On 7/14/2024 12:27 PM, cz via cctalk wrote:
What makes you think that? Some rich guy may buy a whole computer
so he can get another keyboard to hang on the wall with the rest
of his keyboard collection. And scrap the rest.
bill
Thanks for the
notice. Not that any of us will be high bidders but
good to
at least follow along with the community that cares.
I'd be happy if a rich person bought the stuff, at least it would not be
scrapped.
7:04 p.m.
What makes you think that? Some rich guy may buy a
whole computer
so he can get another keyboard to hang on the wall with the rest
of his keyboard collection. And scrap the rest.
Always possible. Better chance of being saved than when a recycler buys
the rest.
Seriously folks: Paul was a great guy but from the POV of his estate
he's just another hoarder. And unless your "museum" has proper
incorporation, documentation, and a trust or something behind it to
survive the owner's death, it's just another hoard as well.
And when you're cleaning up after a hoarder's death there isn't time to
go through every item and lovingly find a home for it. Especially if
it's yor Dad's collection of used Pinball machine parts. (so to speak)
Nor is there really much of an economic incentive: While $10,000 for an
that RS08 on Ebay may seem like a lot of "value" to us, at a certain
wealth point that's not really worth the time to stop on the street to
pick up. So you just junk it to save time.
That's just life.
7:14 p.m.
Trying to compare a billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most of
us collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS because it won’t
amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will be of interest simply because he
called out what to do with it when he dies (sell and proceeds to charity) and he’s a
billionaire so they look very closely at estate where there could be significant tax
revenue.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2024, at 16:04, cz via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
What makes you think that? Some rich guy may buy a whole computer
so he can get another keyboard to hang on the wall with the rest
of his keyboard collection. And scrap the rest.
Always possible. Better chance of being saved than when a recycler buys the rest.
Seriously folks: Paul was a great guy but from the POV of his estate he's just
another hoarder. And unless your "museum" has proper incorporation,
documentation, and a trust or something behind it to survive the owner's death,
it's just another hoard as well.
And when you're cleaning up after a hoarder's death there isn't time to go
through every item and lovingly find a home for it. Especially if it's yor Dad's
collection of used Pinball machine parts. (so to speak)
Nor is there really much of an economic incentive: While $10,000 for an that RS08 on Ebay
may seem like a lot of "value" to us, at a certain wealth point that's not
really worth the time to stop on the street to pick up. So you just junk it to save
time.
That's just life.
8:12 p.m.
On 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
Trying to compare a billionaire’s estate collection
with people like us is futile. Most of us collectors will die and our collection wont be
of interest to the IRS because it won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other
hand, will be of interest simply because he called out what to do with it when he dies
(sell and proceeds to charity) and he’s a billionaire so they look very closely at estate
where there could be significant tax revenue.
There is probably no tax revenue if it all really goes to charity.
bill
8:56 p.m.
Yes, but you still have to do the paperwork. Declare the revenue you got for it and then
the paperwork from the charity acknowledging they received it and it’s value. PITA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:12, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
Trying to compare a billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most
of us collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS because it
won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will be of interest simply
because he called out what to do with it when he dies (sell and proceeds to charity) and
he’s a billionaire so they look very closely at estate where there could be significant
tax revenue.
There is probably no tax revenue if it all really goes to charity.
bill
8:58 p.m.
The estate should just have given the collection or parts of it directly to the charities
if the charities were equipped to
dispose of it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:56, Wayne S
<wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Yes, but you still have to do the paperwork. Declare the revenue you got for it and then
the paperwork from the charity acknowledging they received it and it’s value. PITA
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:12, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>
>
>
>>> On 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>> Trying to compare a billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is
futile. Most of us collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS
because it won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will be of interest
simply because he called out what to do with it when he dies (sell and proceeds to
charity) and he’s a billionaire so they look very closely at estate where there could be
significant tax revenue.
>
> There is probably no tax revenue if it all really goes to charity.
>
> bill
>
9:05 p.m.
I wonder why Paul didn't set it up to try and find a group willing to keep LCM or the
whole collection under a new museum first. Then have a provision that it must be a non
profit, and if it doesn't work, proceed to auction for charity. BradSent from my
Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Wayne S via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: Wayne S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> Cc:
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>, Wayne S <Wayne.Sudol(a)hotmail.com> Subject: [cctalk]
Re: LCM auction pre-notice The estate should just have given the collection or parts of it
directly to the charities if the charities were equipped to dispose of it.Sent from my
iPhone> On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:56, Wayne S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> wrote:>
> Yes, but you still have to do the paperwork. Declare the revenue you got for it and
then the paperwork from the charity acknowledging they received it and it’s value.
PITA> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:12, Bill Gunshannon
via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:>> >> >>
>>>> On 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:>>> Trying to
compare a billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most of us
collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS because it won’t
amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will be of interest simply because he
called out what to do with it when he dies (sell and proceeds to charity) and he’s a
billionaire so they look very closely at estate where there could be significant tax
revenue.>> >> There is probably no tax revenue if it all really goes to
charity.>> >> bill>>
9:15 p.m.
He ran out of time. He was starting to formulate plans for his museums, but
had only got around to dealing with the Pop Culture Museum before he died.
Mike
On Sun, Jul 14, 2024, 9:05 PM brad via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I wonder why Paul didn't set it up to try and find
a group willing to keep
LCM or the whole collection under a new museum first. Then have a provision
that it must be a non profit, and if it doesn't work, proceed to auction
for charity. BradSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Wayne S via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: Wayne
S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>, Wayne S
<Wayne.Sudol(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice The estate should just have
given the collection or parts of it directly to the charities if the
charities were equipped to dispose of it.Sent from my iPhone> On Jul 14,
2024, at 17:56, Wayne S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> wrote:> > Yes, but you
still have to do the paperwork. Declare the revenue you got for it and then
the paperwork from the charity acknowledging they received it and it’s
value. PITA> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:12, Bill
Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:>> >> >>
>>>> On
7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:>>> Trying to compare a
billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most of us
collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS
because it won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will
be of interest simply because he called out what to do with it when he dies
(sell and proceeds to charity) and he’s a billionaire so they look very
closely at estate where there could be significant tax revenue.>> >> There
is probably no tax revenue if it all really goes to charity.>> >>
bill>>
9:20 p.m.
Yep. Civil legal stuff takes a lot of time to get done, especially if you need court time.
Civil proceedings take a back seat to criminal proceedings so scheduling is an inexact
science.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2024, at 18:15, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
He ran out of time. He was starting to formulate plans for his museums, but
had only got around to dealing with the Pop Culture Museum before he died.
Mike
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2024, 9:05 PM brad via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> I wonder why Paul didn't set it up to try and find a group willing to keep
> LCM or the whole collection under a new museum first. Then have a provision
> that it must be a non profit, and if it doesn't work, proceed to auction
> for charity. BradSent from my Galaxy
> -------- Original message --------From: Wayne S via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: Wayne
> S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and
> Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>, Wayne S
<Wayne.Sudol(a)hotmail.com>
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice The estate should just have
> given the collection or parts of it directly to the charities if the
> charities were equipped to dispose of it.Sent from my iPhone> On Jul 14,
> 2024, at 17:56, Wayne S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> wrote:> > Yes, but
you
> still have to do the paperwork. Declare the revenue you got for it and then
> the paperwork from the charity acknowledging they received it and it’s
> value. PITA> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:12,
Bill
> Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:>> >> >>
>>>> On
> 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:>>> Trying to compare a
> billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most of us
> collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS
> because it won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will
> be of interest simply because he called out what to do with it when he dies
> (sell and proceeds to charity) and he’s a billionaire so they look very
> closely at estate where there could be significant tax revenue.>> >>
There
> is probably no tax revenue if it all really goes to charity.>> >>
bill>>
15 Jul
15 Jul
1:12 p.m.
The only thing criminal here is Paul Allen's handling of LCM.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 10:07 AM Wayne S via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Yep. Civil legal stuff takes a lot of time to get
done, especially if you
need court time. Civil proceedings take a back seat to criminal proceedings
so scheduling is an inexact science.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2024, at 18:15, Michael Kerpan via
cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
He ran out of time. He was starting to formulate plans for his museums,
but
had only got around to dealing with the Pop
Culture Museum before he
died.
Mike
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2024, 9:05 PM brad via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>
> I wonder why Paul didn't set it up to try and find a group willing to
keep
> LCM or the whole collection under a new
museum first. Then have a
provision
> that it must be a non profit, and if it
doesn't work, proceed to auction
> for charity. BradSent from my Galaxy
> -------- Original message --------From: Wayne S via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To:
Wayne
> S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> Cc:
"General Discussion: On-Topic and
> Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>, Wayne S <
Wayne.Sudol(a)hotmail.com>
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice
The estate should just have
> given the collection or parts of it directly to the charities if the
> charities were equipped to dispose of it.Sent from my iPhone> On Jul 14,
> 2024, at 17:56, Wayne S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> wrote:> > Yes, but
you
> still have to do the paperwork. Declare the
revenue you got for it and
then
> the paperwork from the charity acknowledging
they received it and it’s
> value. PITA> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:12,
Bill
> Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:>> >> >>
>>>> On
> 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:>>> Trying to compare a
> billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most of
us
> collectors will die and our collection wont
be of interest to the IRS
> because it won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand,
will
> be of interest simply because he called out
what to do with it when he
dies
> (sell and proceeds to charity) and he’s a
billionaire so they look very
> closely at estate where there could be significant tax revenue.>> >>
There
> is probably no tax revenue if it all really
goes to charity.>> >> bill>>
1:19 p.m.
New subject: Civility; Was Re: Re: LCM auction pre-notice
On 7/15/24 12:12, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
The only thing criminal here is Paul Allen's
handling of LCM.
With all due respect, man, your noise:signal ratio is getting really
awful. Do you ever look at what you've typed and ask yourself if it's
*useful*?
The last I looked this mailing list was meant to be an exchange of
information and a source of support, not a Reddit clone.
Doc
1:22 p.m.
New subject: Civility; Was Re: Re: LCM auction pre-notice
Seconded.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Monday, July 15th, 2024 at 13:19, Doc Shipley via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 7/15/24 12:12, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
The only thing criminal here is Paul Allen's
handling of LCM.
With all due respect, man, your noise:signal ratio is getting really
awful. Do you ever look at what you've typed and ask yourself if it's
useful?
The last I looked this mailing list was meant to be an exchange of
information and a source of support, not a Reddit clone.
Doc 
2 p.m.
New subject: Civility; Was Re: Re: LCM auction pre-notice
This whole thread is full of judgements and opinions and condemnations.
Sellam makes one flippant comment, in line with the prevailing opinion, not
attacking anyone on this list, and he is singled out for being uncivil? I
don't understand. No reply needed. Just stating my confusion.
On 7/15/24 12:12, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
The only thing criminal here is Paul Allen's
handling of LCM.
With all due respect, man, your noise:signal ratio is getting really
awful. Do you ever look at what you've typed and ask yourself if it's
*useful*?
The last I looked this mailing list was meant to be an exchange of
information and a source of support, not a Reddit clone.
Doc
2:50 p.m.
New subject: Civility; Was Re: Re: LCM auction pre-notice
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:01 AM Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
This whole thread is full of judgements and opinions
and condemnations.
Sellam makes one flippant comment, in line with the prevailing opinion, not
attacking anyone on this list, and he is singled out for being uncivil? I
don't understand. No reply needed. Just stating my confusion.
It's a strange phenomenon. I don't get it myself.
Especially since my comment is perhaps literally true.
Sellam
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