10 Oct
2022
10 Oct
'22
11:51 p.m.
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced supplier of good clean
used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of plastic like these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I find the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Thank You
Don Resor
11 Oct
11 Oct
2:06 a.m.
Don...it's the package size not the weight.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 2:52 AM D. Resor via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced
supplier of good clean
used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of plastic like
these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I find
the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Thank You
Don Resor
6 a.m.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced
supplier of good clean
used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of plastic like these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I find the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Don, it's not the weight, it's the size. They use a thing called
"dimensional weight" for large, light packages. (and I agree, it's
stupidly expensive)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of
its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
6:17 a.m.
Of you're near kennettsquare, PAI have a few
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 9:01 AM geneb via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced
supplier of good clean
used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of plastic like
these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I find
the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Don, it's not the weight, it's the size. They use a thing called
"dimensional weight" for large, light packages. (and I agree, it's
stupidly expensive)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of
its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
7:21 a.m.
I have a long shelf filled with boxes of 8" floppy diskettes. Data on many and a
bunch of NOS sealed product I have held onto. From the crazy asking prices I am seeing on
eBay (As if they are collector's items/antiques), I could sell them by the box for the
same price Xerox charged during the 1980s and look reasonably priced compared to other
sellers.
I look at this stuff now and think how did I manage to amass so much stuff.
I've also misplaced my Xerox 820-II. I found the Xerox u07 8" DD FDD with the
8" HDD Combo box, but where did I put the rest of it, ugh.
Don Resor
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 7:01 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases
On 10/11/22 09:17, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
Of you're near kennettsquare, PAI have a few
I have piles of them. Unfortunately, they are all full of disks loaded with data. :-)
bill
7:08 a.m.
Unfortunately I am in Los Angeles....
Thanks anyway
Don Resor
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Degnan via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 6:18 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Bill Degnan <billdegnan(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases
Of you're near kennettsquare, PAI have a few
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 9:01 AM geneb via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced
supplier of good
clean used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of
plastic like
these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I
find
the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Don, it's not the weight, it's the size. They use a thing called
"dimensional weight" for large, light packages. (and I agree, it's
stupidly expensive)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of
its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value
database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
6:58 a.m.
On 10/11/22 09:00, geneb via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
eBay has always been rather stupid when it comes to shipping.
I have seen many people who are actually making their profit
from the shipping rather than the actual item for sale.
On the other side of the coin... I once tried to sell a couple
Chilton's car manuals. The shipping price I quoted was the cost
of a "If it fits, it ships" USPS envelope. eBay refused to let
me do it claiming the shipping charges were too high. I haven't
tried selling anything on eBay since. (and I have a lot of stuff
that just screams to be sold there!!)
bill
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced
supplier of good clean
used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of plastic like
these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I
find the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Don, it's not the weight, it's the size. They use a thing called
"dimensional weight" for large, light packages. (and I agree, it's
stupidly expensive)
7:07 a.m.
There is the ability to ship via Media Mail for documentation. I try to buy documents
this way, as well as good ole vinyl records.
Several years ago eBay decided they wanted to "profit" from shipping costs.
This was supposedly to alleviate shipping cost gouging. I doubt this has helped much.
Don Resor
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 6:59 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases
eBay has always been rather stupid when it comes to shipping.
I have seen many people who are actually making their profit from the shipping rather than
the actual item for sale.
On the other side of the coin... I once tried to sell a couple Chilton's car manuals.
The shipping price I quoted was the cost of a "If it fits, it ships" USPS
envelope. eBay refused to let me do it claiming the shipping charges were too high. I
haven't tried selling anything on eBay since. (and I have a lot of stuff that just
screams to be sold there!!)
bill
7:16 a.m.
Yes, eBay charges the seller the same commission on shipping as it does for
the item price, and the taxes charged to the buyer as well.
Sometimes if you contact the buyer and ask them nicely if they can add a
cheaper shipping option they will oblige you, but some can't use UPS or
FedEx for practical reasons (no drop-off point near them, for example).
Bottom line though, you aren't going to be able to get something like this
for less than $10 shipping.
Sellam
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 7:08 AM D. Resor via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
There is the ability to ship via Media Mail for
documentation. I try to
buy documents this way, as well as good ole vinyl records.
Several years ago eBay decided they wanted to "profit" from shipping
costs. This was supposedly to alleviate shipping cost gouging. I doubt
this has helped much.
Don Resor
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 6:59 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases
eBay has always been rather stupid when it comes to shipping.
I have seen many people who are actually making their profit from the
shipping rather than the actual item for sale.
On the other side of the coin... I once tried to sell a couple Chilton's
car manuals. The shipping price I quoted was the cost of a "If it fits, it
ships" USPS envelope. eBay refused to let me do it claiming the shipping
charges were too high. I haven't tried selling anything on eBay since.
(and I have a lot of stuff that just screams to be sold there!!)
bill
7:29 a.m.
I have contacted the seller, and kindly asked as a gentlemanly as I possibly could.
I'll see what happens
Don Resor
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 7:16 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Sellam Abraham <sellam.ismail(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases
Yes, eBay charges the seller the same commission on shipping as it does for the item
price, and the taxes charged to the buyer as well.
Sometimes if you contact the buyer and ask them nicely if they can add a cheaper shipping
option they will oblige you, but some can't use UPS or FedEx for practical reasons (no
drop-off point near them, for example).
Bottom line though, you aren't going to be able to get something like this for less
than $10 shipping.
Sellam
7:41 a.m.
I have contacted the seller, and kindly asked as a
gentlemanly as I possibly could.
I'll see what happens
Don Resor
If the seller will use PirateShip that can knock down the price of
shipping quite a bit, UPS and USPS only. Good news is it, unlike so many
others, can actually give you a PDF that is 4" x 6" for a thermal label
printer without hassle.
Charging fees on shipping is eBay's way of stopping people from listing
items for $1 with $49 shipping to get around paying ebay fees.
- Ethan
9:03 a.m.
On 2022-10-11 8:16 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
Yes, eBay charges the seller the same commission on
shipping as it does for
the item price, and the taxes charged to the buyer as well.
Sometimes if you contact the buyer and ask them nicely if they can add a
cheaper shipping option they will oblige you, but some can't use UPS or
FedEx for practical reasons (no drop-off point near them, for example).
Bottom line though, you aren't going to be able to get something like this
for less than $10 shipping.
Tack on a extra 0. Only china gives under $10 shipping.
Sellam
Ben.
8:22 a.m.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On the other side of the coin... I once tried to sell
a couple
Chilton's car manuals. The shipping price I quoted was the cost
of a "If it fits, it ships" USPS envelope. eBay refused to let
me do it claiming the shipping charges were too high. I haven't
tried selling anything on eBay since. (and I have a lot of stuff
that just screams to be sold there!!)
"Media mail" is the only practical option for those.
And, blank, or user-written diskettes don't qualify; according to the
post-office, only commercially written disks.
8:59 a.m.
From the USPS Domestic Mail Manual, section 170, subsection 4.1(i):
"Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or
scripts prepared solely for use with such media."
Sellam
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:23 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
On the other side of the coin... I once tried to
sell a couple
Chilton's car manuals. The shipping price I quoted was the cost
of a "If it fits, it ships" USPS envelope. eBay refused to let
me do it claiming the shipping charges were too high. I haven't
tried selling anything on eBay since. (and I have a lot of stuff
that just screams to be sold there!!)
"Media mail" is the only practical option for those.
And, blank, or user-written diskettes don't qualify; according to the
post-office, only commercially written disks.
12 Oct
12 Oct
10:47 a.m.
From the USPS Domestic Mail Manual, section 170,
subsection 4.1(i):
"Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or
scripts prepared solely for use with such media."
I've asked and our postmaster has said anything that's not blank is OK (we ship a
lot of diskettes!). I'm sure interpretation is basically arbitrary when it comes down
to stuff like, "how do we classify these disks from the 70s that someone is
inexplicably writing new data to in 2022?"
Thanks,
Jonathan
11:36 a.m.
From the USPS
Domestic Mail Manual, section 170, subsection 4.1(i):
"Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or
scripts prepared solely for use with such media."
I've asked and our postmaster has said anything
that's not blank is OK
(we ship a lot of diskettes!). I'm sure interpretation is basically
arbitrary when it comes down to stuff like, "how do we classify these
disks from the 70s that someone is inexplicably writing new data to in
2022?"
Not blank is certainly a more reasonable definition than the cockamamy
"only if it was written by a publisher" silliness.
'course, an FORMATTED disk, without any "user" content is not
"blank" :-)
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
9:27 a.m.
On 10/11/22 08:22, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
"Media mail" is the only practical option
for those.
And, blank, or user-written diskettes don't qualify; according to the
post-office, only commercially written disks.
Who says that the media has to be disks. Dig around for some dusty old
paperbacks. AFAIK, the container does not have to match the contents.
That being said, I've never been challenged on a metered (i.e. prepaid)
Media Mail package.
This reminds me of the times I was shipping a tuba via Amtrak Express in
a large fiberglass case. There was a size exception in the shipping
rules for musical instruments, but it didn't apply if one was shipping
empty cases. So my customer scrounged around for a beat-up junked
trumpet and put it in the tuba case. The stationmaster didn't have a
problem with that...
--Chuck
11:20 a.m.
> "Media mail" is the only practical
option for those.
THAT comment was actuaally in reply to somebody who had a problem with the
cost of shipping Chilton automotive books, where media mail is the ONLY
practical option.
> And, blank, or user-written diskettes don't
qualify; according to the
> post-office, only commercially written disks.
On Wed, 12 Oct 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Who says that the media has to be disks. Dig around
for some dusty old
paperbacks. AFAIK, the container does not have to match the contents.
Of course not. Although, if it were to escalate, they wouldn't be HAPPY
about using some alternate media as a way to ship the CONTAINER as
media-mail.
ANY printed/pre-recorded materials, such as last year's calendar,
paperback books, a page or two of published sheet music.
But, best of all:
AOL disks would be acceptable!
Finally, a use.
Decades ago, I inquired, and the USPS response was explicitly that
user-recorded disks were not accceptable, that it had to be commercially
published content. They even said, "and absolutely not your notes in a
binder, and not something that YOU printed on your computer"! Hey,
waitaminit! I was using my Canon CX (Cordata) to print documentation for
commercial software that I was publishing (although commercial duplication
for anything other than tiny runs). At least my XenoSoft disk labels and
documentation were professional enough looking that they would have
withstood a challenge.
I really don't know whether that information from USPS was correct and
accurate; the phrase "printed"/"pre-recorded" would certainly be
subject
to interpretation.
But, AOL disks would be acceptable!
That being said, I've never been challenged on a
metered (i.e. prepaid)
Media Mail package.
I have NEVER had USPS want to confirm the content when I shipped books.
Never.
HOWEVER, one time, an eBay seller tried to ship me non-media as media-mail
and it was returned to her.
This reminds me of the times I was shipping a tuba via
Amtrak Express in
a large fiberglass case. There was a size exception in the shipping
rules for musical instruments, but it didn't apply if one was shipping
empty cases. So my customer scrounged around for a beat-up junked
trumpet and put it in the tuba case. The stationmaster didn't have a
problem with that...
Well, at least it was another brass instrument, not an attempt to ship a
string or woodwind in a brass instrument case :-)
My sister insists that her wooden Alphorn is a brass instrument, but that
a brass saxophone is NOT a brass instrument.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
12:17 p.m.
On 10/12/22 11:20, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Well, at least it was another brass instrument, not an
attempt to ship a
string or woodwind in a brass instrument case :-)
My sister insists that her wooden Alphorn is a brass instrument, but
that a brass saxophone is NOT a brass instrument.
Of course--it all depends on the sound-making mechanism. A plastic
cornet is still a brass instrument, as is an ophicleide or a serpent
being labrosones. The actual construction material doesn't really
matter. A metal clarinet is still a woodwind as is a saxophone or a
flute or bassoon. So a contrabass tuba fitted with a contrabassoon
bocal is technically, not a brass instrument; neither is a tromboon.
--Chuck
11 Oct
11 Oct
8 a.m.
On Oct 11, 2022, at 1:51 AM, D. Resor via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Does anyone have, or know of a reasonably priced supplier of good clean
used, or new 8" floppy diskette boxes? The kind made of plastic like these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134258177087
I have one 8" box with Xerox software in which the plastic literally
crumbling.
The price this seller wants for the case itself is reasonable but I find the
price of shipping outrageous.
Total shipping price for three boxes is shown to be $21.35.
I may be crazy, but this seems nuts for something so light.
Thank You
Don Resor
As others have mentioned, “dimensional weight” is a thing, though usually only applies
once a package is over 12”x12”x12”, at least with USPS. However, this may just be the case
of a clueless eBayer*. The fact they have more than 10 available, plus the Make Offer
button, suggests they might want to move these. I’d just reach out to the seller and ask
him for his best price with shipping on as many as you’d like; he can shoot you a private
offer immediately. I find calculated costs go askew when choosing multiples of an item if
the seller hasn’t set it up correctly.
If the seller has a few “worthless” diskettes laying around, he can include one in each
case and now the package qualifies under media mail rates. I won’t speak to the ethics of
it, but it is technically allowed per USPS’ rules.
*As a seller, eBay has really messed up their listing interface. Unless I specifically
choose a flat rate option, or offer only a single service, I really have no idea what the
buyer is going to see for shipping, especially if they have a PO box. In an attempt to
simply things for new users, they have eliminated a number of useful options (which would
reduce buyers’ costs), or buried them in some obscure location. My wife, who rarely sells,
has a totally different listing interface than I do. In a recent case of wanting to offer
something “for pickup only”, the only way to choose that option was via their app on a
smartphone. It’s a mess. -C
8:25 a.m.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote:
If the seller has a few “worthless” diskettes laying
around, he can
include one in each case and now the package qualifies under media mail
rates. I won’t speak to the ethics of it, but it is technically
allowed per USPS’ rules.
According to USPS, that is not acceptable for blank, nor even user-written
diskettes.
However, AOL disks would be acceptable!
8:29 a.m.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 4:25 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote:
When did AOL send out 8" disks?
-tony
If the seller has a few “worthless” diskettes
laying around, he can
include one in each case and now the package qualifies under media mail
rates. I won’t speak to the ethics of it, but it is technically
allowed per USPS’ rules.
According to USPS, that is not acceptable for blank, nor even user-written
diskettes.
However, AOL disks would be acceptable!
8:38 a.m.
>> If the seller has a few “worthless” diskettes
laying around, he can
>> include one in each case and now the package qualifies under media mail
>> rates. I won’t speak to the ethics of it, but it is technically
>> allowed per USPS’ rules.
>
> According to USPS, that is not acceptable for blank, nor even user-written
> diskettes.
>
> However, AOL disks would be acceptable!
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Tony Duell wrote:
When did AOL send out 8" disks?
They didn't.
But, a CD-ROM, a 5.25, or a 3.5" disk will fit inside an 8" box.
It doesn't have to be a tight fit.
8:41 a.m.
>> If the seller has a few “worthless” diskettes
laying around, he can
>> include one in each case and now the package qualifies under media mail
>> rates. I won’t speak to the ethics of it, but it is technically
>> allowed per USPS’ rules.
> According to USPS, that is not acceptable for blank, nor even user-written
> diskettes.
> However, AOL disks would be acceptable!
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Tony Duell wrote:
When did AOL send out 8" disks?
The box does not have to be packed full. A single CD-ROM or 3.5" disk in
each box for 10 8" is OK.
8:41 a.m.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 4:25 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote:
Finally, a good use for AOL disks : )
Try as I might, I can find no restriction on mailing user-written media. Blank media, no.
But I believe user-written is okay as it’s “prerecorded”.
https://pe.usps.com/Archive/PDF/DMMArchive20050106/173.pdf
"Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or scripts
prepared solely for use with such media."
If the seller has a few “worthless” diskettes
laying around, he can
include one in each case and now the package qualifies under media mail
rates. I won’t speak to the ethics of it, but it is technically
allowed per USPS’ rules.
According to USPS, that is not acceptable for blank, nor even user-written
diskettes.
However, AOL disks would be acceptable!
12 Oct
12 Oct
8:11 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
With all the talk about 8" floppy diskette storage cases, I was wondering if anyone
had any 8" floppy disks themselves they would be willing to sell?
This winter I am hoping to start restoring an IMSAI 8080 I recently acquired, and while it
came with one external 5.25" drive, it would be desirable to connect a
"proper" 8" disk system to it as well. However, the complete lack of the
disks themselves makes that project more or less impractical even once I get hardware set
up. So before I even start that project, I'd love to pick up a collection of 8"
media. Years back I had an impressive collection of CP/M software on 8" floppies,
but unfortunately, they were accidentally left behind in a move. :-/
-mike
8:38 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
A little while ago I bought some new ones from https://www.floppydisk.com/
I have no relationship to floppydisk.com
Kevin Parker
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Begley via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:12
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Mike Begley <spam(a)hell.org>
Subject: [cctalk] 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette
storage cases)
With all the talk about 8" floppy diskette storage cases, I was wondering if
anyone had any 8" floppy disks themselves they would be willing to sell?
This winter I am hoping to start restoring an IMSAI 8080 I recently
acquired, and while it came with one external 5.25" drive, it would be
desirable to connect a "proper" 8" disk system to it as well. However,
the
complete lack of the disks themselves makes that project more or less
impractical even once I get hardware set up. So before I even start that
project, I'd love to pick up a collection of 8" media. Years back I had an
impressive collection of CP/M software on 8" floppies, but unfortunately,
they were accidentally left behind in a move. :-/
-mike
14 Oct
14 Oct
12:47 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
How much?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 11:38 PM Kevin Parker via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
A little while ago I bought some new ones from
https://www.floppydisk.com/
I have no relationship to floppydisk.com
Kevin Parker
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Begley via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:12
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
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Cc: Mike Begley <spam(a)hell.org>
Subject: [cctalk] 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette
storage cases)
With all the talk about 8" floppy diskette storage cases, I was wondering
if
anyone had any 8" floppy disks themselves they would be willing to sell?
This winter I am hoping to start restoring an IMSAI 8080 I recently
acquired, and while it came with one external 5.25" drive, it would be
desirable to connect a "proper" 8" disk system to it as well. However,
the
complete lack of the disks themselves makes that project more or less
impractical even once I get hardware set up. So before I even start that
project, I'd love to pick up a collection of 8" media. Years back I had an
impressive collection of CP/M software on 8" floppies, but unfortunately,
they were accidentally left behind in a move. :-/
-mike
3:24 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
Just curious but how does one predict if floppys will be good when buying
old media? Is it just a crap shoop at this point?
3:26 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
In my experience, floppy disks prove to be very resilient with the specific
exception of late 1990s 3.5" floppies, which tend to fail readily.
Sellam
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:24 PM John Herron via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Just curious but how does one predict if floppys will
be good when buying
old media? Is it just a crap shoop at this point?
3:57 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
I’ve used a floppies a lot over the years and only real failures i’ve seen are with the
case or jacket being cracked or otherwise broken torn. Had a lot of 3 1/2 floppies that
wouldn’t write but a reformat fixed that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 14, 2022, at 15:26, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
In my experience, floppy disks prove to be very resilient with the specific
exception of late 1990s 3.5" floppies, which tend to fail readily.
Sellam
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:24 PM John Herron via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Just curious but how does one predict if floppys will be good when buying
> old media? Is it just a crap shoop at this point?
>
16 Oct
16 Oct
3:21 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
I had a mixture of DS and SS and had to ship to Australia so it worked out about $8 a disk
in the end but I have three machines that use 8" floppies so I stocked up while I
could.
Don't quote me but I think he bought all the inventory of a company that was (past
tense) making them so there is a limited supply so as the supply dwindles I expect the
price will rise - again don't quote me on this.
Recommend you check out their web site but the service I got from Tom was excellent - he
was very helpful.
Kevin Parker
0418 815 527
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Subject: [cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette
storage cases)
How much?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 11:38 PM Kevin Parker via cctalk < cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
A little while ago I bought some new ones from
https://www.floppydisk.com/
I have no relationship to floppydisk.com
Kevin Parker
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Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:12
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Cc: Mike Begley <spam(a)hell.org>
Subject: [cctalk] 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy
diskette storage cases)
With all the talk about 8" floppy diskette storage cases, I was
wondering if anyone had any 8" floppy disks themselves they would be
willing to sell?
This winter I am hoping to start restoring an IMSAI 8080 I recently
acquired, and while it came with one external 5.25" drive, it would be
desirable to connect a "proper" 8" disk system to it as well.
However, the complete lack of the disks themselves makes that project
more or less impractical even once I get hardware set up. So before I
even start that project, I'd love to pick up a collection of 8" media.
Years back I had an impressive collection of CP/M software on 8"
floppies, but unfortunately, they were accidentally left behind in a
move. :-/
-mike
13 Oct
13 Oct
5:17 p.m.
New subject: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)
I've certainly got some for sale; mostly DS/DD but a few SS/SD as well. Can
your drive(s) handle DS/DD disks?
m
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 11:12 PM Mike Begley via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
With all the talk about 8" floppy diskette
storage cases, I was wondering
if anyone had any 8" floppy disks themselves they would be willing to sell?
This winter I am hoping to start restoring an IMSAI 8080 I recently
acquired, and while it came with one external 5.25" drive, it would be
desirable to connect a "proper" 8" disk system to it as well. However,
the
complete lack of the disks themselves makes that project more or less
impractical even once I get hardware set up. So before I even start that
project, I'd love to pick up a collection of 8" media. Years back I had an
impressive collection of CP/M software on 8" floppies, but unfortunately,
they were accidentally left behind in a move. :-/
-mike
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