7 Nov
2023
7 Nov
'23
5:49 p.m.
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures. I'm trying
to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts
directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what the extension suggests. Once I
supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it and RSTS can see the tape contents.
Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the destination, and then it asks
me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C tape again (labels
don't match).
So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation procedure handy?
paul
7 Nov
7 Nov
6:05 p.m.
On Nov 7, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning
<pa0pkg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures. I'm trying
to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts
directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what the extension suggests. Once I
supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it and RSTS can see the tape contents.
Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the destination, and then it
asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C tape again
(labels don't match).
So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation procedure handy?
paul
Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C. And I found the C installation manual on
STUPI. Off & running now.
paul
8 Nov
8 Nov
7:50 a.m.
Not related to the original question, but what is "STUPI?"
TIA!
Lee C.
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:10 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
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Lee Courtney
+1-650-704-3934 cell
On Nov 7, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning
<pa0pkg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures.
I'm trying to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers
bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what
the extension suggests. Once I supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes
it and RSTS can see the tape contents.
Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the
destination, and then it asks me for the "library" tape and complains
when
I give it the C tape again (labels don't match).
So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation
procedure handy?
paul
Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C. And I found the C installation
manual on STUPI. Off & running now.
paul
7:55 a.m.
Short for mim.stupi.net <http://mim.stupi.net/> -- Johnny's web server where I
found an assortment of RSX manuals, including a whole bunch of layered product manuals
that carry over to other PDP-11 operating systems as well. A lot of them don't seem
to be on Bitsavers. Among them are installation manuals for things like DEC C, APL, and
Datatrieve.
So now I have DEC C installed, and it works. Its generated code is surprisingly bad,
though. Loading a sequence of structure fields by loading the base address into a
register once for each assignment is a rather obvious bad idea. So while GCC is not
exactly stellar on PDP-11 (or VAX) code generation, it does better than that.
paul
On Nov 8, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Lee Courtney via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Not related to the original question, but what is "STUPI?"
TIA!
Lee C.
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:10 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
--
Lee Courtney
+1-650-704-3934 cell
On Nov 7, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning
<pa0pkg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures.
I'm trying to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers
bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what
the extension suggests. Once I supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes
it and RSTS can see the tape contents.
Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the
destination, and then it asks me for the "library" tape and complains
when
I give it the C tape again (labels don't match).
So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation
procedure handy?
paul
Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C. And I found the C installation
manual on STUPI. Off & running now.
paul
10:54 a.m.
On 2023-11-07 7:05 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Come one, don't hide you are a CLOSET COBOL PROGRAMMER.
Will COBOL (C81) run on a regular 11, or does it need to be upgraded?
On Nov 7, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning
<pa0pkg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures. I'm trying
to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts
directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what the extension suggests. Once I
supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it and RSTS can see the tape contents.
Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the destination, and then it
asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C tape again
(labels don't match).
So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation procedure handy?
paul
Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C. And I found the C installation manual on
STUPI. Off & running now.
paul
11:07 a.m.
On Nov 8, 2023, at 1:54 PM, ben via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 2023-11-07 7:05 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Come one, don't hide you are a CLOSET COBOL PROGRAMMER.
Not me, but my younger sister is an expert (RPG also). She observed that "COBOL is
the programming language that gives you writer's cramp".
On Nov 7,
2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning <pa0pkg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures. I'm trying
to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts
directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what the extension suggests. Once I
supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it and RSTS can see the tape contents.
Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the destination, and then it
asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C tape again
(labels don't match).
So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation procedure handy?
paul
Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C. And I found the C installation
manual on STUPI. Off & running now.
paul Will COBOL (C81) run on a regular 11, or does it need
to be upgraded?
I don't remember. Possibly it can use CIS if present but I don't think it
requires that.
paul
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