27 Oct
2024
27 Oct
'24
9:28 a.m.
Hi guys,
I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
with them a little :-)
Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
(Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
booted it, but ...simh also exists).
I'm looking for assembler, linker and the simulator that was abailable
when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
of that old stuff anymore.
Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
Regards,
Holm
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27 Oct
27 Oct
10:43 a.m.
I have the starter kit user software for the TMS320C5x if that helps. I need to archive
those disks if I remember. I pulled them out of the scrap pile in my first year of
university
On 27 Oct 2024, at 16:37, Holm Tiffe via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi guys,
I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
with them a little :-)
Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
(Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
booted it, but ...simh also exists).
I'm looking for assembler, linker and the simulator that was abailable
when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
of that old stuff anymore.
Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
Regards,
Holm
--
Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe,
Goethestrasse 15, 09569 Oederan, USt-Id: DE253710583
info(a)tsht.de Tel +49 37292 709778 Mobil: 0172 8790 741
11:49 a.m.
May be it helps, maybe not. I don't know how this software may be
configurable to build code for the older processors, but Yes, I'm
interested in a copy of that sw and will try what I can do with it.
TIA,
Holm
jake utley via cctalk wrote:
I have the starter kit user software for the TMS320C5x
if that helps. I need to archive those disks if I remember. I pulled them out of the scrap
pile in my first year of university
> On 27 Oct 2024, at 16:37, Holm Tiffe via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
> with them a little :-)
>
> Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
> (Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
> booted it, but ...simh also exists).
>
> I'm looking for assembler, linker and the simulator that was abailable
> when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
> of that old stuff anymore.
> Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
>
> Regards,
> Holm
> --
> Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe,
> Goethestrasse 15, 09569 Oederan, USt-Id: DE253710583
> info(a)tsht.de Tel +49 37292 709778 Mobil: 0172 8790 741
>
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2:26 p.m.
On 10/27/24 11:28, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
Hi guys,
I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
with them a little :-)
Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
(Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
booted it, but ...simh also exists).
My 2000-vintage pick and place machine has a number of these
320XX series DSPs in it to process camera images. I seem to
recall they are a Harvard architecture. I never did any
programming on them.
Jon
2:29 p.m.
I’ll make images of them if needed but I think I have already. If I have then I’ll put the
software up on archive.org
On 27 Oct 2024, at 21:26, Jon Elson via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 10/27/24 11:28, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
Hi guys,
I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
with them a little :-)
Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
(Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
booted it, but ...simh also exists).
My 2000-vintage pick and place machine has a number of these 320XX series DSPs in
it to process camera images. I seem to recall they are a Harvard architecture. I never
did any programming on them.
Jon
2:52 p.m.
Please drop me a line if you do that..
THX,
Holm
jake utley via cctalk wrote:
I’ll make images of them if needed but I think I have already. If I have then I’ll put
the software up on archive.org
> On 27 Oct 2024, at 21:26, Jon Elson via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 10/27/24 11:28, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
>> with them a little :-)
>>
>> Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
>> (Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
>> booted it, but ...simh also exists).
>>
> My 2000-vintage pick and place machine has a number of these 320XX series DSPs in it
to process camera images. I seem to recall they are a Harvard architecture. I never did
any programming on them.
>
> Jon
>
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28 Oct
28 Oct
12:17 p.m.
So it looks like I can’t upload to archive.org for a bit of time but I’ll have a look and
see if I can put it somewhere I can share.
Sent from my iPhone
On 27 Oct 2024, at 21:52, Holm Tiffe via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Please drop me a line if you do that..
THX,
Holm
jake utley via cctalk wrote:
I’ll make images of them if needed but I think I have already. If I have then I’ll put
the software up on archive.org
>> On 27 Oct 2024, at 21:26, Jon Elson via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>
> On 10/27/24 11:28, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
>> with them a little :-)
>>
>> Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
>> (Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
>> booted it, but ...simh also exists).
>>
> My 2000-vintage pick and place machine has a number of these 320XX series DSPs in it
to process camera images. I seem to recall they are a Harvard architecture. I never did
any programming on them.
>
> Jon
>
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12:48 p.m.
Dropbox works for this kinda stuff.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 28, 2024, at 12:17, jake utley via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
So it looks like I can’t upload to archive.org for a bit of time but I’ll have a look
and see if I can put it somewhere I can share.
Sent from my iPhone
>> On 27 Oct 2024, at 21:52, Holm Tiffe via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>>
>> Please drop me a line if you do that..
>>
>> THX,
>> Holm
>>
>> jake utley via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>
>> I’ll make images of them if needed but I think I have already. If I have then
I’ll put the software up on archive.org
>>>> On 27 Oct 2024, at 21:26, Jon Elson via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/27/24 11:28, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to
play
>>>> with them a little :-)
>>>>
>>>> Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
>>>> (Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've
last
>>>> booted it, but ...simh also exists).
>>>>
>>> My 2000-vintage pick and place machine has a number of these 320XX series
DSPs in it to process camera images. I seem to recall they are a Harvard architecture. I
never did any programming on them.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>
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>
27 Oct
27 Oct
2:51 p.m.
Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 10/27/24 11:28, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
...a modified Havard Architecture...you can write Program memory and can
execute it, there is only one Data Bus.
Thefirst TMS320's are very limited with the really small hardware stack
that has only a few levels. No deep subroutine calls, no interrupt
cascading, no recursion. There is some Software routine published that
moves the HW Stack contents to the external RAM ..maybe a link register
would be better?
Don't know about later TMS's, for soure that got fixed fast..
I've found that a C Compiler for the TMS320C25 was available, the
TMS32020 isn't mentioned in that regard.
Regards,
Holm
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Hi guys,
I've got a bunch of TMS32020 and two TMS320C25 Chips and I want to play
with them a little :-)
Is the old DOS (orf VMS?) Software still available from somewhere?
(Yes, I have an VS4000-90 under the desk..long time ago since I've last
booted it, but ...simh also exists).
My 2000-vintage pick and place machine has a number of these 320XX series
DSPs in it to process camera images. I seem to recall they are a Harvard
architecture. I never did any programming on them.
Jon 
29 Oct
29 Oct
8:40 a.m.
In article <Zx5qN4a1g4nLS8cO(a)pegasus.freibergnet.de> you write:
I'm looking for assembler, linker and the simulator
that was abailable
when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
of that old stuff anymore.
Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
Did you look here?
<https://bitsavers.org/components/ti/TMS320xx/software/>
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30 Oct
30 Oct
10:31 a.m.
I’ve put it on my google drive. If you can’t access it I’ll see if I have a setting wrong.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hjRqdN0ss51BNetFZKR9OZls-6T3bmPI/view?usp=…
On 29 Oct 2024, at 16:38, Richard via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
In article <Zx5qN4a1g4nLS8cO(a)pegasus.freibergnet.de> you write:
I'm looking for assembler, linker and the simulator that was abailable
when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
of that old stuff anymore.
Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
Did you look here?
<https://bitsavers.org/components/ti/TMS320xx/software/>
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book
<http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
31 Oct
31 Oct
1:50 a.m.
Thanks, I got the file..you made all right!
Regards,
Holm
jake utley via cctalk wrote:
I’ve put it on my google drive. If you can’t access it
I’ll see if I have a setting wrong.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hjRqdN0ss51BNetFZKR9OZls-6T3bmPI/view?usp=…
On 29 Oct 2024, at 16:38, Richard via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
In article <Zx5qN4a1g4nLS8cO(a)pegasus.freibergnet.de> you write:
I'm looking for assembler, linker and the simulator that was abailable
when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
of that old stuff anymore.
Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
Did you look here?
<https://bitsavers.org/components/ti/TMS320xx/software/>
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book
<http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
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1:51 a.m.
Richard via cctalk wrote:
In article
<Zx5qN4a1g4nLS8cO(a)pegasus.freibergnet.de> you write:
I've looked at bitsavers but missed that one until your post.
There are several imd files that look interesting, I'll take a closer
look at them. Thank you!
Regards,
Holm
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I'm looking for assembler, linker and the
simulator that was abailable
when those chips came out (1986...) but I can't find any occurences
of that old stuff anymore.
Was a C compiler available for those old DSP's?
Did you look here?
<https://bitsavers.org/components/ti/TMS320xx/software/>
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