Well...just as I am typing up an email to you... Anyway, I hope these get saved - it is quite a score. I wish I could take it, but I can not. But I could take part of it, the System/370 model 125. It would be nice to bring it back to the US, assuming it was US built. Lets keep a channel open about this. -- Will On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 2:05 PM Adam Bradley via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Some of you may remember that I (Adam) and another chap (Chris) rescued two > IBM 360/20 systems out of an abandoned building in Nuremberg back in 2019 > and brought them to the UK (our blog is here: https://www.ibm360.co.uk/). > > We have since basically found ourselves unable to effectively progress the > project due to personal & professional commitments. For various reasons > (explained in our latest blog post) we are testing the waters for making > the machines available to the right sort of people. > > We are therefore inviting proposals or offers focused around one of the > following core ideas: > > 1. A museum or preservation organisation takes the machines on permanent > loan or possibly as a donation depending upon exactly what the terms look > like > 2. A private entity takes the machines on loan for display for a fix > period > 3. A foreign museum takes the machines, with negotiation around coverage > of our costs > 4. A private collector purchases the machines from us for a sum to be > negotiated at the time > > If you have an alternate proposal we would also be open to hearing it. > > We have three main systems in the collection, as detailed below: > > *Red IBM 360 Model 20 System* > > 1 x IBM 360 Model 20 CPU in Red > > 1x 2203 System Printer > > 2x 2311 Disk Drives > > 1x 2152 System Console (possibly the last remaining example of this in the > world, though in poor condition) > > 1x 2560 Punched Card Reader/Punch/Sorter > > 1x 2501 Punched Card Reader > > 2x 2415 II Tape Drives (One master, one slave) (Possibly only remaining > examples of this model globally) > > 25x IBM Disc Packs > > *Blue IBM 360 Model 20 System* > > 1 x IBM 360 Model 20 CPU in Blue > > 1x 2501 Punched Card Reader > > 1x 1403 Printer > > *System 370/125* > > 1x 370/125 CPU – Unknown condition > > 1x 3504 Punched card reader (incomplete) > > *Miscellaneous* > > 1x 029 Card Punch > > 1x 5471 System Console > > Assorted other spares and unknown/incomplete components > > Around 12 full boxes of brand new IBM punched cards > > ----------- > > In an ideal world we would like to see everything go together, but we > understand that this is an enormous amount of kit and that might not be > possible. We are not willing to split up individual systems, but we are > willing to split things by the groupings above. For instance if there was > interest in only the red system due to its complete set of peripherals, we > would be willing to negotiate on that basis. > > It is extremely rare that systems such as this become available, and these > are two of only a handful of privately held IBM 360’s in the world. > > If you have an idea or a proposal, please email me directly at this > address. Please do NOT email me to suggest I contact X museum unless you > are a representative of that museum or hold a direct relationship with them > and know they are interested. > > We are genuinely sad that we’ve been unable to work on this project and > take it where we wanted it to go. We set out with strong intentions, but > alas, as is often the case life took over and we were unable to push > forward in the way we wanted to. We hope that someone comes along who will > be able to keep the systems safe for future generations. > > Kind Regards, > > Adam Bradley

-----Original Message----- From: Christian Corti via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 8:03 AM To: Adam Bradley via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Cc: Christian Corti <cc(a)informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Two IBM 360's available in the UK On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, Adam Bradley wrote: https://www.ibm360.co.uk/). Sad to hear that. We (Computermuseum Stuttgart) did place a bid, too. We were a bit disappointed that instead of going just 200km, it went abroad to a now

country (which makes re-importing unattractive). But then, after we saw

pictures of the house and the system, we were somehow glad that we did not win ;-) We realised that, first, the overall condition is unknown or bad,

second, it is simply not worth more than a couple of hundred Euros

all the forthcoming costs and time needed to transport the lot, store and

it etc. I don't know if History@IBM was interested, though (they have a working 360/20 system). And maybe the Vintage Computing Lab in Munich was interested, too (they have a large mainframes collection, and also the

705, although not complete). I guess that the UK /360s are now "lost" for any non-profit/non-budget

in the EU.

Christian

Pin 2 is TXD+ so I suppose that the RX side still works. I have no suitable storage for this system (well, I have some RF71 drives but not the carriers that would be needed to connect to the backplane properly), so I was planning to netboot from a SIMH instance on a PC. However, to configure that I would need the ethernet MAC address, and I can't think of a simple way to get that. unless someone knows whether the ethernet ID prom is readable in something like a TL866II Plus?