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From: Wayne S <Wayne.Sudol(a)hotmail.com>
Sent: 29 August 2025 22:57
To: rob(a)jarratt.me.uk
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<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; Robert Jarratt <rob_j37(a)hotmail.com>om>; Scott Baker
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Subject: Re: [cctalk] Re: Repairing an Olivetti M24 PSU
Hookup your scope across the 5v and gnd on J254 and see what the trace
looks like. Also do +12 v.
And -12v on j100
That will tell you if one rail is bad.
You should have not much ripple.
If there is a lot, trace that voltage rail back.
Thanks for the suggestions, Wayne. Something changed in the behaviour. I am getting some
very erratic behaviour and I wonder if I am making a mistake.
After getting your suggestion I checked the outputs again, because, to my surprise, I got
some output. With no load all the outputs seemed correct, but as there was no load I
switched on the PSU for only the briefest of periods. Then I added a test load and the
outputs were generally just about in spec except for the 5V output, although +15V was also
just fractionally below spec. With the test load, the 5V output only produced +3.9V. I
used a 0.5R load for a 10A current, the spec says min current 6.2 and max 16.8A, so I
wasn't overloading it. I was wondering if the fact that I had removed and put back
some parts might have cured a dry joint, and in fact I had found one connector was not
well attached. The +5V ripple seemed OK, the spec says 50mVp-p, but I was getting 400mV
spikes every 16us. This is what the scope showed me:
https://rjarratt.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/5v-output-0.5r-lo…. One
of the output caps, C21, has a slight bulge, so I will replace that.
Then I noticed that I had forgotten to put back some of the components that I had
partially removed for checking. I thought that putting them back might resolve the low
voltage on the 5V output. But, instead, it stopped working altogether. The +5V output is
at 0V and +12V is at 0.75V. The components I had lifted were R60 and D66. This made me
think that maybe the SCR was being triggered. I lifted them again, but now the outputs are
still stubbornly at 0V (or thereabouts). I tried removing the SCR altogether but this made
no difference. Then at other random times the +12V will go to about 7.7V, while the +5V
output will stay at 0. This is all quite baffling. The signal on the rectifying diodes
seems unchanged, so something is wrong on the secondary side.
One possible candidate is C21. I have removed it and tested it out of circuit, but I think
my instruments may be struggling to cope with the relatively high capacitance value
(10000uF, not 1000uF as marked). My ESR meter gives wildly varying ESR values, my DMM
can't measure its capacitance, even though it is rated up to 9999uF, but if I measure
resistance, it shows open circuit which is what I would expect. At the very least C21 is
suspect and as it has a very slight bulge, I am going to get a new one. Otherwise, I am
not really sure what could randomly affect the output so radically. It would seem though
that something is shorting +5V to GND because the rectifying diodes are getting a signal
from the output transformer.
I am going to get a replacement for C21, and in the meantime I am continuing to
investigate, but any suggestions very welcome!
For reference I am referring to the parts in the marked up schematic here:
https://rjarratt.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/m24_psu_schematic…
Thanks
Rob