More on manuals plus rescue

Sean Caron scaron at
Fri Aug 21 14:00:28 CDT 2015

That's odd, as long as I can remember, Lucent/Avaya distributed the manuals
at least for their PBX and key products pretty openly; Nortel tried to keep
them more closely held but eventually relented, too. Carrier-grade stuff
(i.e. 5ESS and SL-100/DMS-100) was always another story, of course. I don't
recall ever having any issues getting needed documentation when bringing my
Definity up and that was circa maybe 2008? Of course, the Definity is so
easy to figure out, you hardly need a manual ... Definitely need them on
the Meridian though :O



On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:50 AM, <ethan at> wrote:

> In this specific case though, as it's an HP manual, if it's one of the ones
>> that went with Agilent (now Keysight) then they seem to have an
>> enlightened
>> attitude and make their old manuals available and also point to a whole
>> bunch of other places that do the same. So they may well be OK with
>> someone
>> making a manual available ... although I don't see any explicit evidence
>> that they'd be OK with someone *selling* a PDF of one of their historic
>> manuals.
> This was a HP plotter at the end of it's service life (not a current
> model), and this entire thing happened some 12 years ago :-) But the file
> might still be on my broken home page... hmmm
> Hah, yep:
> Looks like my notes on it were HP said it's discontinued and wouldn't talk
> about the machine at all. Zero. Zilch. 650C was the model.
> I also posted on the same web page all of the Lucent Legend manuals. At
> the time Lucent had them all available for download for free from their
> ELMO system, but it wasn't picked up by google or the like. BUT, there was
> a lot of people charging $100-$200 for the pdf files that they downloaded
> from ELMO, telling people it wasn't freely available and for purchase only.
> The only one who gets use of the manuals is someone who owns the hardware,
> and the hardware comes with the manuals. *Shrug*

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