Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help)

[William Donzelli]

That has to be just about the biggest 1800 system ever made.

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Will

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Mike Stein <mhs.stein at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow indeed! Now THAT's a project!
>
> m
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>
> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts'" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 5:12 PM
>
> Subject: RE: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help)
>
>
>> Wow.....
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Johannes Thelen
>>> Sent: 27 March 2015 21:03
>>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
>>> Subject: RE: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help)
>>>
>>>
>>> I just visited see 1800  (900 km of driving! I'm little bit exhausted...)
>>
>> and we
>>>
>>> had big time with plant manager when we went throught the stash! I think
>>> I
>>> have infected him of old computer disease, he had very excited this
>>
>> project
>>>
>>> too, haha! :) Original plan was to pickup some small items today, but it
>>
>> was
>>>
>>> impossible, because of all my hurry at work :/ But now I have good,
>>> interesting and of course,  bad news ... Lets take the bad news first: it
>>
>> seems
>>>
>>> that machine have donate some parts as can be seen at the pics. That
>>> company had another 1800, maybe some parts have been picked out for it...
>>> Also there is "small" dust problem, it is every freaking place!
>>> Then interesting news: it have been used to since 1986, longer as I
>>
>> excepted.
>>>
>>> Second, and more interesting fact, that same warehouse had used as
>>> mushroom farm ;) Good news: There is documents every where! Just quick
>>> look, and I found tens of IBMs original documents! And also it is still
>>
>> fully
>>>
>>> enough to fix it up. Some spare parts are laying around and almost all
>>
>> stuff
>>>
>>> what is know used back then, is still there (except Tektronix displays,
>>
>> GRRR!).
>>>
>>> ****
>>> And that moving... Somebody recommend sleigh and thats really only
>>> option,
>>> it is absolute enourmous work to but it small pieces. I have to make
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>> sleigh of
>>>
>>> RHS beams, plywood and polyamidi slides. This whole set is lowered on
>>
>> stairs
>>>
>>> by winch. That's the plan and it should (and would) work!
>>> More coming later! Now I have to sleep!
>>> Oh, the pictures: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_DR111cK6W-
>>> SFJpMm16MVgyVFk&usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Ps. And thank you for all for good advices! :D Thaaaaanks!
>>>
>>> - Johannes ThelenFinland
>>> Before microcomputers blog (Finnish)
>>> http://ennenmikrotietokoneita.blogspot.fi/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Subject: Re: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need > some help)
>>> > From: paulkoning at comcast.net
>>> > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:53:04 -0400
>>> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>>> > CC: publicmail at jwsss.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Jon Elson > > <elson at pico-systems.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > On 03/21/2015 05:15 PM, Jim Stephens wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 3/21/2015 12:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>>> > >>> OK, a quick search shows the 2311 was > >>> indeed hydraulic!
>>> > >> The University of Missouri, Rolla 9 drive > >> 2314 was hydraulic,
>>> > >> and on
>>
>> night
>>>
>>> a drive's actuator unloaded into the pack area, and took it out, but the
>>> damage from that major failure was contained w/o the pack or actuators
>>> exiting the enclosure.  however the debris took out all the packs and
>>
>> drives.
>>>
>>> > >>
>>> > > This one wasn't when I was there.  I think > > we also had a oil
>>> > > spraying
>>
>> event
>>>
>>> there, but it was relatively contained.  We had one at Washington
>>
>> University,
>>>
>>> also that might have contaminated several spindles before they got all
>>> the
>>> packs unloaded.
>>> > > I think this one is fairly quickly detected > > if the computer room
>>> > > is
>>
>> occupied,
>>>
>>> it causes a strong oily smell that is quickly spread by the A/C system.
>>> >
>>> > We had a 1620/II in college with a pair of > 1311s, which are similar
>>> > to
>>
>> the
>>>
>>> 2311.  The system drive sprung a leak.  The field service tech replaced
>>
>> the
>>>
>>> failed seals, and I obtained some reagent grade isopropyl alcohol from
>>> the
>>> chemistry department.  He used that with Kimwipes to clean the oil from
>>> pack and heads.  The result was complete success.  Packs and heads in
>>
>> those
>>>
>>> days had tolerances far larger; I wouldn't want to try that with anything
>>
>> much
>>>
>>> newer.  But if you have a 2311 with contaminated heads or packs, you
>>> might
>>> give that technique a try.
>>> >
>>> > paul
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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