Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some help)

[Mike Stein]

Wow indeed! Now THAT's a project!

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some 
help)


> Wow.....
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cctech 
>> [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On 
>> Behalf Of
>> Johannes Thelen
>> Sent: 27 March 2015 21:03
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
>> Subject: RE: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need some 
>> help)
>>
>>
>> I just visited see 1800  (900 km of driving! 
>> I'm little bit exhausted...)
> and we
>> had big time with plant manager when we went 
>> throught the stash! I think I
>> have infected him of old computer disease, he 
>> had very excited this
> project
>> too, haha! :) Original plan was to pickup some 
>> small items today, but it
> was
>> impossible, because of all my hurry at work :/ 
>> But now I have good,
>> interesting and of course,  bad news ... Lets 
>> take the bad news first: it
> seems
>> that machine have donate some parts as can be 
>> seen at the pics. That
>> company had another 1800, maybe some parts have 
>> been picked out for it...
>> Also there is "small" dust problem, it is every 
>> freaking place!
>> Then interesting news: it have been used to 
>> since 1986, longer as I
> excepted.
>> Second, and more interesting fact, that same 
>> warehouse had used as
>> mushroom farm ;) Good news: There is documents 
>> every where! Just quick
>> look, and I found tens of IBMs original 
>> documents! And also it is still
> fully
>> enough to fix it up. Some spare parts are 
>> laying around and almost all
> stuff
>> what is know used back then, is still there 
>> (except Tektronix displays,
> GRRR!).
>> ****
>> And that moving... Somebody recommend sleigh 
>> and thats really only option,
>> it is absolute enourmous work to but it small 
>> pieces. I have to make
> sleigh of
>> RHS beams, plywood and polyamidi slides. This 
>> whole set is lowered on
> stairs
>> by winch. That's the plan and it should (and 
>> would) work!
>> More coming later! Now I have to sleep!
>> Oh, the pictures: 
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_DR111cK6W-
>> SFJpMm16MVgyVFk&usp=sharing
>>
>> Ps. And thank you for all for good advices! :D 
>> Thaaaaanks!
>>
>> - Johannes ThelenFinland
>> Before microcomputers blog (Finnish)
>> http://ennenmikrotietokoneita.blogspot.fi/
>>
>>
>>
>> > Subject: Re: Huge IBM 1800 find (and need 
>> > some help)
>> > From: paulkoning at comcast.net
>> > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:53:04 -0400
>> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>> > CC: publicmail at jwsss.com
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Jon Elson 
>> > > <elson at pico-systems.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 03/21/2015 05:15 PM, Jim Stephens wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 3/21/2015 12:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>> > >>> OK, a quick search shows the 2311 was 
>> > >>> indeed hydraulic!
>> > >> The University of Missouri, Rolla 9 drive 
>> > >> 2314 was hydraulic, and on
> night
>> a drive's actuator unloaded into the pack area, 
>> and took it out, but the
>> damage from that major failure was contained 
>> w/o the pack or actuators
>> exiting the enclosure.  however the debris took 
>> out all the packs and
> drives.
>> > >>
>> > > This one wasn't when I was there.  I think 
>> > > we also had a oil spraying
> event
>> there, but it was relatively contained.  We had 
>> one at Washington
> University,
>> also that might have contaminated several 
>> spindles before they got all the
>> packs unloaded.
>> > > I think this one is fairly quickly detected 
>> > > if the computer room is
> occupied,
>> it causes a strong oily smell that is quickly 
>> spread by the A/C system.
>> >
>> > We had a 1620/II in college with a pair of 
>> > 1311s, which are similar to
> the
>> 2311.  The system drive sprung a leak.  The 
>> field service tech replaced
> the
>> failed seals, and I obtained some reagent grade 
>> isopropyl alcohol from the
>> chemistry department.  He used that with 
>> Kimwipes to clean the oil from
>> pack and heads.  The result was complete 
>> success.  Packs and heads in
> those
>> days had tolerances far larger; I wouldn't want 
>> to try that with anything
> much
>> newer.  But if you have a 2311 with 
>> contaminated heads or packs, you might
>> give that technique a try.
>> >
>> > paul
>> >
>>
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