Emails going to spam folder in gmail

[Bill Degnan]

Anyway, the issue with cctech/talk going to the spam folder as far as GMAIL
is concerned is that spectrum.com does not encrypt the messages.    I
presume that's the mail server domain.
Bill

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 9:47 AM Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I believe that the BIG PROBLEM is the unthinking liveware that simply
> looks at Spam filtering effectiveness in terms of how much SPAM it prevents
> from being delivered, and thinks that if some real e-mail gets lost in the
> friendly fire the sender is to blame.
> Apart from in technical groups as this, not one ever worries about lost
> mail. Of course as a sender you can set up DKIM and SPF records, but then
> so can the spammers.
>
> So if you find e-mail to cctalk or cctech goes to your JUNK folder on
> gmail create a filter to stop it...
> ... it much less effort than trying to fix google....
>
> Dave
> G4UGM
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan
> > via cctalk
> > Sent: 01 January 2021 13:44
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > Subject: Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for chiming in on this.
> >
> > > Disclaimer: I don't speak for Google ...
> >
> > > Large corporations (Google included) are basically a scaling problem,
> > > especially when it comes to customer service.  I think that's pretty
> > > obvious, and stories about YouTube problems and account access are
> > legion.
> > > I don't have a solution that can be applied to the problems on this
> > > thread.  My purpose in posting was to point out that this probably
> > > isn't a matter of market share or people forgetting not to be evil;
> > > it's a technical problem.  Getting the configs right is the first step.
> > > Blacklists are also a problem, and clearly sometimes the filters being
> > > applied are wrong.  We try to find and fix these things as they are
> > > brought to our attention.
> > >
> >
> > The big problem is bringing it to Google's attention.
> >
> > >
> > > It took me less than a minute of searching to find this:
> > > https://support.google.com/mail/contact/bulk_send_new
> > >
> > > That's the form to contact the Gmail team for getting help with
> > > debugging your mail being marked as spam/phishing attempts, you get
> > > SMTP temp-fails or rejects, or other problems.  (The search term was
> > > "problems sending email to gmail accounts" - go to the first link,
> > > follow the workflow, and assuming all of the preliminary answers to
> > > the questions are "I didn't do anything wrong" then you'll get a link
> > > to that contact form.)
> > >
> >
> > I spent hours over days looking for something like this (using Google
> > searches) and I failed to find it.  I always ended up in blind alleys
> that
> > assumed I was a Google customer trying to get an email into my mailbox,
> not
> > a correspondant of a Google customer trying to get an email out.
> >
> > My issue with Google and evil is that they provide no way that I can
> find to
> > bring abuse of Google facilites (to send spam for example) to their
> attention
> > so that the abuse can be stopped.  For example, someone has been testing
> > my mail server to see if it can be used to relay spam by forging emails
> as
> > coming from various email addresses in my domain name and addressed to
> > check212014 at gmail.com and attempting to feed these emails into my mail
> > server (which doesn't accept them) from compromised ip addresses.  This
> > has happened nearly two hundred times over a period of five years now.  I
> > have made numerous attempts to bring this to the attention of Google so
> > that they could put a stop to this check212014 mailbox being used for
> this
> > abusive purpose yet I have failed.  You seem to have the magic touch.
> Can
> > you let me know how to bring this to Google's attention?
> >
> > (By the way, this doesn't tend to happen with hotmail.com addresses to
> pick
> > one example.  The reason it doesn't is because on the rare occasions
> when it
> > does, reporting the issue to hotmail or whoever using the standard, easy
> to
> > find abuse reporting mechanisms results in the problem being stopped and
> > the spammer soon gets fed up having to set up new testing mailboxes every
> > few days so they end up moving over to gmail.com instead where they can
> > keep the same relay testing mailbox for at least 5 years.)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter Coghlan.
> >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
>
>