Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 25 15:47:24 CDT 2021

On 8/25/21 12:04 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 8/22/2021 8:21 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>> On 8/21/21 11:50 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 8/17/2021 1:39 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>>>> I thought V7M and Ultrix were entirely diferent and unrelated things.
>>>> At least on the Pro, DEC released a betal version of the one (which 
>>>> I tried when it came out) and then canceled it and replaced it by a 
>>>> release of the other.  I forgot which came first, other than that 
>>>> the beta was really clunky.  As in, a "vi" that didn't do real 
>>>> screen updates...
>>>>     paul
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Al Kossow via cctech 
>>>>> <cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>>> images up under 
>>>>> http://bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/floppyimages/rx50/V7M-11-V1.0_6_USR_RX50-QJ083-H3.zip 
>>> They are indeed different.  V7m is based on 7th edition A&T UNIX, 
>>> whereas Ultrix was based in BSD.
>>> JRJ
>> Actually, Ultrix-11 is based on V7m and Ultrix032 is based on BSD 4.x.
>> bill
> In the video on youtube and in my experience the screen formating codes 
> seem to be incorrect.  You can see this in the video when a man page is 
> brought up.  The bolding does not occur.  I get the same result after 
> installing.  The same with vi, it doesn't work in the video and doesn't 
> work after installation.  I've tried Teraterm, putty, xterm all with the 
> same result.  Haven't tried an actual terminal yet.  What was your 
> experience?

Same thing at the moment.  I really don't remember much from the past
as I haven't used Ultrix-11 in several years.  I suspect it has
something to do with number of bits and parity.  May be another thing
that works once you have a non-generic kernel.  I seem to remember
RS232 character characteristics changing during the boot process.
I think BSD211 has the same quirk.  Of course, once you have a custom
kernel you can use a better serial card and login to that.  :-)

I am hoping top get back to this soon, but at the moment I have a
house full of sick people and I am pretty much the only one still
able to moitivate.


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