Looking at my stash of 5.25" floppies, I have C 4.0, 5.0 and 6. I think the 32-bit VC++ came in with 7.0. which would account for the explosion in paper (Class libraries, etc.). 6.0 looks to be pretty straightforward and includes libraries and Workbench for OS/2 as well. Unless I've misplaced something, it looks like 7 1.2MB 5.25" floppies. --Chuck