Copying from a floppy to an SD card?

[drlegendre .]

"OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?

Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever."

As I say, I'm only aware of using the second parallel port to speed disk
transfers, and in that capacity it's really excellent. If it has other
uses, that's new info to me.. since I never need to copy protected
originals, I've never looked into it.

Once the hardware is in place, open CBM auto-detects the presence of the
parallel connection as an "XP-1541" setup, vs. XM-1541 using only the
serial cable. No further configuration is required, it just reads & writes
at like 4-5X the speed.


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:17 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I know of no way, probing only with the PC & software, to determine which
> > type of X-1541 cable you might have. However, wiring diagrams for +all+
> > versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any great effort to
> open
> > up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine a given cable and
> compare
> > it against the various arrangements.
> >
> > The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not required
> to
> > produce a working setup.
>
>
> OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
> copy-protected disks, as I thought?
>
> Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
> the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
> whatever.
>
>
> > However, when coupled with an appropriate cable,
> > drives equipped with the parallel connector operate several times faster
> > than even the fastest non-parallel setups. That said, any of the X-1541
> > setups will tend to run a fair bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC
> bus,
> > so unless you plan to do a +lot+ of transfer, don't worry about going the
> > parallel route.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Eric Christopherson <
> > echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
> > > > I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of it's on Linux..
> here's
> > > > what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
> > > >
> > > > First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a
> .D64
> > > (or
> > > > other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a
> > 1541
> > > > (or compatible) drive, a supporting software suite and one of the
> > various
> > > > X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd
> suggest
> > > > using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased,
> or,
> > > > with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
> > > species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
> > > remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since I'm
> > > sure I intended it for use in Linux when I bought it, but I'd like to
> be
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on
> > the
> > > > PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
> > > > driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc.
> > original
> > > > SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read images
> > of
> > > > the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
> > >
> > > Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable
> that
> > > connects, not only to the serial IEC port of the drive, but to a
> > > parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
> > > chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
> > > than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
> > > specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image
> to
> > > the
> > > > SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 &
> floppies,
> > > so
> > > > wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure
> it's
> > > very
> > > > well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware - right?
> =)
> > >
> > > The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
> > > know.  The main source of documentation I know of is at
> > > <https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a
> SD
> > > card
> > > > >> if so please enplane how it is done
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > You need a machine that supports both formats.  Either add an SD
> card
> > > to a
> > > > > Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read
> the
> > > > > commodore disk on a PC.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >         Eric Christopherson
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>         Eric Christopherson
>