Copying from a floppy to an SD card?

Eric Christopherson echristopherson at gmail.com
Tue Feb 23 09:51:30 CST 2016


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:17 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know of no way, probing only with the PC & software, to determine which
> type of X-1541 cable you might have. However, wiring diagrams for +all+
> versions are freely available, and it shouldn't be any great effort to open
> up and - with the help of a multimeter - examine a given cable and compare
> it against the various arrangements.
>
> The 1541-side parallel port is totally optional, and it is not required to
> produce a working setup.


OK, so the presence of that parallel port has nothing to do with imaging
copy-protected disks, as I thought?

Now that I think about it, maybe some particular nibbling software (mnib or
the like) just requires the parallel port, probably for speed reasons or
whatever.


> However, when coupled with an appropriate cable,
> drives equipped with the parallel connector operate several times faster
> than even the fastest non-parallel setups. That said, any of the X-1541
> setups will tend to run a fair bit faster than a genuine Commodre IEC bus,
> so unless you plan to do a +lot+ of transfer, don't worry about going the
> parallel route.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Eric Christopherson <
> echristopherson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, drlegendre . wrote:
> > > I do a fair amount of cross-C64 work, but all of it's on Linux.. here's
> > > what I can tell you, much of which applies to MS/Win as well.
> > >
> > > First you need a method of reading the original C-64 floppy into a .D64
> > (or
> > > other supported) image. This requires +four+ basic things - a PC, a
> 1541
> > > (or compatible) drive, a supporting software suite and one of the
> various
> > > X-1541 cables. These days, with modern multi-tasking OSes, I'd suggest
> > > using nothing but the XM-1541 cable design. These may be purchased, or,
> > > with a little time & effort, built up by the DIY-er.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way, from Linux, to determine the particular
> > species of one of those cables? I bought mine years ago and no longer
> > remember which it is (and it isn't marked). I assume it's XM, since I'm
> > sure I intended it for use in Linux when I bought it, but I'd like to be
> > sure.
> >
> > >
> > > The XM-1541 cable connects the CBM 1541 drive to the parallel port on
> the
> > > PC. The software suite (I highly suggest OpenCBM!) acts as a userland
> > > driver / utility suite, allowing you to read, write, format etc.
> original
> > > SS/SD disks on the 1541 drive. Once you have successfully read images
> of
> > > the disk(s), then it's up to you how you handle them..
> >
> > Somewhere I picked up the idea that for that you would need a cable that
> > connects, not only to the serial IEC port of the drive, but to a
> > parallel port which you must DIY on the drive. Would someone mind
> > chiming in here -- I don't understand how that would do anything other
> > than making the transfer faster? I know that on the software side you
> > specifically need nibbling tools, like mnib.
> >
> > >
> > > If you have one of the SD-based systems, simply copy over the image to
> > the
> > > SD and you're good! I don't use SD card, just original 1541 & floppies,
> > so
> > > wouldn't have much help for that end of the process. But I'm sure it's
> > very
> > > well documented by the vendor of the SD-card drive hardware - right? =)
> >
> > The SD card devices all use Ingo Korb's SD2IEC software, as far as I
> > know.  The main source of documentation I know of is at
> > <https://www.sd2iec.de/gitweb/?p=sd2iec.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=HEAD>.
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Mike wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Is there a way to copy a disk from a commodore floppy drive to a SD
> > card
> > > >> if so please enplane how it is done
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > You need a machine that supports both formats.  Either add an SD card
> > to a
> > > > Commodore, or do appropriate special cabling and software to read the
> > > > commodore disk on a PC.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> >         Eric Christopherson
> >
>



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        Eric Christopherson


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