R: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

[Dave G4UGM]

The MP3000 red book explains how the system fits together. An interesting read even if you don't have one..

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245633.html

Dave Wade
G4UGM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Guy
> Sotomayor
> Sent: 11 August 2015 16:51
> To: General at main.local; Discussion at main.local:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: R: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System
> 
> It takes 20-30 minutes from the time that I hit the power switch until there's
> a login screen on the 3179s (not including the time it takes to IML the 3174
> controller).  So you can see, I did a bit of editing to get a 9 minute video.  ;-)
> 
> The service board is located in the chassis.  It plugs into the PCI backplane.
> However other z/Series machines have an "external" laptop (though from
> what I can tell, there's a drawer that the laptop sits in that you pull out when
> you need to do something with the service element.
> 
> TTFN - Guy
> 
> On 8/11/15 5:44 AM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
> > Well, that was an interesting video. How long did it take to get it fully
> loaded ?
> > The "service" Celeron board, is it interfaced internally to the rest, or
> externally ?
> >
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Guy
> > Sotomayor
> > Inviato: martedì 11 agosto 2015 07:08
> > A: General at main.local; Discussion at main.local:On-Topic and Off-Topic
> > Posts
> > Oggetto: Re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System
> >
> > z/OS is a licensed product from IBM (read $$$'s involved). Generally you
> can't run anything newer than MVS 3.8j on Hercules.  See the Hercules
> website (http://www.hercules-390.eu). It has links to other sites where you
> can get various OS's and other programs that can be legally run.
> >
> > Note that there is a "turnkey" system for MVS 3.8j that is set up for
> Hercules that has an ISPF-like clone.  I have that set up to run on my Mac.  I
> also have the VM/370 "sixpack" installed as well when I want to run VM/370.
> >
> > The version of z/OS installed on my MP3000 does have ISPF (along with
> > lots of other program
> > products) installed.
> >
> > TTFN - Guy
> >
> > On 8/10/15 2:33 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
> >> Does it include ISPF? Using MVS is a bear without it...
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, there's a z/os image for hercules, floating around....
> >>>
> >>> -----Messaggio originale-----
> >>> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin
> >>> Monceaux
> >>> Inviato: lunedì 10 agosto 2015 21:55
> >>> A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> >>> Oggetto: Re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System
> >>>
> >>> Guy,
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 11:20:42PM -0700, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I spent some time today and made a video of my MP 3000 system
> >>>> booting up to z/OS.  The video is here:
> http://youtu.be/WnJmeQR0GQU.
> >>> Sadly I'll have to wait until I get home to watch it.  YouTube is
> >>> blocked where I work.  I suspect I'll be experiencing extreme envy as I
> watch it.
> >>> The closest I have is Hercules running the OSes freely available to
> >>> hobbyists.  Just one thing - one doesn't boot z/OS, one IPL's z/OS.
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Kevin
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> >>>
> >>> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
> >>> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
> >>>
> >>>