12 Dec
2024
12 Dec
'24
5:51 p.m.
Hello
I have been doing a several years effort to save (very) old software for posterity,
researchers, students. Mostly early 90s UNIXes, SunOS, Solaris, DG-UX, HP-UX, AIX,
DEC-UNIX, some VMS software even. I uploaded some things to the Archive, and elsewhere,
but I would rather get this off my shoulders, for mortality affects us all. This vanishing
would be a loss, with many of these things are nowhere to be found anymore.
I tried contacting the admin(?) bear at typewritten dot org, offering a few things for
archiving, without results. Do any of the users here have any means to contact the admin
there? I would very much like to access some of the UNIXes software there, and would
gladly offer a quid pro quo.
Similarly, if you have any software for Solaris (2.6, earlier) and other UNIXes,
regardless of licensing status, I would be very much interested.
Some things probably are lost forever though, such as Proliant PL/I, VisualWorks 2.5,
Tibco S-PLUS, Harlequin WebWorks and such.
Thanks in advance, and all the best
Seb.
12 Dec
12 Dec
6:28 p.m.
I have a QIC tape that I’m looking to get the contents off of and was pointed in bear’s
direction and he’s ignored my emails too.
I guess it is best not to bother him.
On Dec 12, 2024, at 8:51 PM, jfsebastian--- via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Hello
I have been doing a several years effort to save (very) old software for posterity,
researchers, students. Mostly early 90s UNIXes, SunOS, Solaris, DG-UX, HP-UX, AIX,
DEC-UNIX, some VMS software even. I uploaded some things to the Archive, and elsewhere,
but I would rather get this off my shoulders, for mortality affects us all. This vanishing
would be a loss, with many of these things are nowhere to be found anymore.
I tried contacting the admin(?) bear at typewritten dot org, offering a few things for
archiving, without results. Do any of the users here have any means to contact the admin
there? I would very much like to access some of the UNIXes software there, and would
gladly offer a quid pro quo.
Similarly, if you have any software for Solaris (2.6, earlier) and other UNIXes,
regardless of licensing status, I would be very much interested.
Some things probably are lost forever though, such as Proliant PL/I, VisualWorks 2.5,
Tibco S-PLUS, Harlequin WebWorks and such.
Thanks in advance, and all the best
Seb.
6:58 p.m.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 21:37, Cameron Kelly via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have a QIC tape that I’m looking to get the contents
off of and was
pointed in bear’s direction and he’s ignored my emails too.
I guess it is best not to bother him.
I stumbled on his website many years ago and emailed him several times.
Like the rest of you, I never got a response. I can only conclude that he
is someone who enjoys having a private collection and showing it off, but
is entirely uninterested in sharing - or perhaps, playing well - with
others.
-Henry
13 Dec
13 Dec
11:58 a.m.
I can only conclude that
he
is someone who enjoys having a private collection and showing it off,
but
is entirely uninterested in sharing - or perhaps, playing well - with
others.
-Henry
That is a strange assumption. My experience has been totally different. Long before I got
on this list or seriously into vintage computers I got my hand on an Everex EISA system. I
was looking everywhere for the CFG and OVL file for the system and found an old usenet
post from Bear indicating he had been also looking and finally found the files. I e-mailed
him not really expecting a response (since the posting was a few years old by then). Not
only did he respond, he also sent me the ECU disk and I was able to get the system up and
running. I know Bear does frequent the list and he posts here once in a while. He may
have just missed those emails. Maybe do a search of the archive and make sure you are
using a current email of his?
-Ali
12:10 p.m.
Kinda wierd site. It looks like it’s a listing of documents and software but you can’t
download or request anything.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2024, at 12:03, Ali via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I can only conclude that
he
is someone who enjoys having a private collection and showing it off,
but
is entirely uninterested in sharing - or perhaps, playing well - with
others.
-Henry
That is a strange assumption. My experience has been totally different. Long before I got
on this list or seriously into vintage computers I got my hand on an Everex EISA system. I
was looking everywhere for the CFG and OVL file for the system and found an old usenet
post from Bear indicating he had been also looking and finally found the files. I e-mailed
him not really expecting a response (since the posting was a few years old by then). Not
only did he respond, he also sent me the ECU disk and I was able to get the system up and
running. I know Bear does frequent the list and he posts here once in a while. He may
have just missed those emails. Maybe do a search of the archive and make sure you are
using a current email of his?
-Ali
12:22 p.m.
I tried emailing the one that is on his site.
On Dec 13, 2024, at 2:58 PM, Ali <cctalk(a)ibm51xx.net> wrote:
I can only conclude that
he
is someone who enjoys having a private collection and showing it off,
but
is entirely uninterested in sharing - or perhaps, playing well - with
others.
-Henry
That is a strange assumption. My experience has been totally different. Long before I got
on this list or seriously into vintage computers I got my hand on an Everex EISA system. I
was looking everywhere for the CFG and OVL file for the system and found an old usenet
post from Bear indicating he had been also looking and finally found the files. I e-mailed
him not really expecting a response (since the posting was a few years old by then). Not
only did he respond, he also sent me the ECU disk and I was able to get the system up and
running. I know Bear does frequent the list and he posts here once in a while. He may
have just missed those emails. Maybe do a search of the archive and make sure you are
using a current email of his?
-Ali
3:54 p.m.
Look at https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
But the problem with privately operated sites could be, that they might vanish at some
point.
Andreas
Am 13.12.2024 um 21:47 schrieb Cameron Kelly via
cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>:
I tried emailing the one that is on his site.
>
> On Dec 13, 2024, at 2:58 PM, Ali <cctalk(a)ibm51xx.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I can only conclude that
>> he
>> is someone who enjoys having a private collection and showing it off,
>> but
>> is entirely uninterested in sharing - or perhaps, playing well - with
>> others.
>>
>> -Henry
>
> That is a strange assumption. My experience has been totally different. Long before I
got on this list or seriously into vintage computers I got my hand on an Everex EISA
system. I was looking everywhere for the CFG and OVL file for the system and found an old
usenet post from Bear indicating he had been also looking and finally found the files. I
e-mailed him not really expecting a response (since the posting was a few years old by
then). Not only did he respond, he also sent me the ECU disk and I was able to get the
system up and running. I know Bear does frequent the list and he posts here once in a
while. He may have just missed those emails. Maybe do a search of the archive and make
sure you are using a current email of his?
>
> -Ali
>
>
>
6:37 p.m.
On 2024-12-13 4:54 p.m., hupfadekroua via cctalk wrote:
Look at
https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
But the problem with privately operated sites could be, that they might vanish at some
point.
Andreas
And how is that different from a Commercial Site?
Geo-cities comes to mind.
The only thing worse is computer science books,
same old stuff revised for the latest trend of the day.
20 Dec
20 Dec
1:35 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 7:58 PM Henry Bent via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 21:37, Cameron Kelly via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
It's a bit presumptuous to be generous with other people's time. I've
transacted with him, no issues and he has a remarkable and
particularly well maintained collection.
He seems active on some web forums like VCF. Maybe the email is not
working or overwhelmed.
I have a QIC tape that I’m looking to get the
contents off of and was
pointed in bear’s direction and he’s ignored my emails too.
I guess it is best not to bother him.
I stumbled on his website many years ago and emailed him several times.
Like the rest of you, I never got a response. I can only conclude that he
is someone who enjoys having a private collection and showing it off, but
is entirely uninterested in sharing - or perhaps, playing well - with
others. -Henry
2:25 p.m.
On 20 December 2024 21:35:01 GMT, Kevin Bowling via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 7:58 PM Henry Bent via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 21:37, Cameron Kelly via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > I have a QIC tape that I’m looking to get the contents off of and was
> > pointed in bear’s direction and he’s ignored my emails too.
> >
> > I guess it is best not to bother him.
I have quite a few odd storage devices from Personal Computer World days. Manufacturers
used to send them to me, and I kept the spares in my loft because they might be useful one
day.
If your in no hurry I can keep my eyes open but my loft isn't organized. You don't
say what QIC it is. TR1-3 are very likely, others I couldn't say.
But it'd be a slow burn endeavour.
Regards, Frank.
2:35 p.m.
On 20 December 2024 21:35:01 GMT, Kevin Bowling via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 7:58 PM Henry Bent via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 21:37, Cameron Kelly via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > I have a QIC tape that I’m looking to get the contents off of and was
> > pointed in bear’s direction and he’s ignored my emails too.
> >
> > I guess it is best not to bother him.
I have quite a few odd storage devices from Personal Computer World days. Manufacturers
used to send them to me, and I kept the spares in my loft because they might be useful one
day.
If your in no hurry I can keep my eyes open but my loft isn't organized. You don't
say what QIC it is. TR1-3 are very likely, others I couldn't say.
But it'd be a slow burn endeavour.
Regards, Frank.
12 Dec
12 Dec
10:25 p.m.
Archive.org or bitsavers.org?
John :-#)#
On 2024-12-12 5:51 p.m., jfsebastian--- via cctalk wrote:
Hello
I have been doing a several years effort to save (very) old software for posterity,
researchers, students. Mostly early 90s UNIXes, SunOS, Solaris, DG-UX, HP-UX, AIX,
DEC-UNIX, some VMS software even. I uploaded some things to the Archive, and elsewhere,
but I would rather get this off my shoulders, for mortality affects us all. This vanishing
would be a loss, with many of these things are nowhere to be found anymore.
I tried contacting the admin(?) bear at typewritten dot org, offering a few things for
archiving, without results. Do any of the users here have any means to contact the admin
there? I would very much like to access some of the UNIXes software there, and would
gladly offer a quid pro quo.
Similarly, if you have any software for Solaris (2.6, earlier) and other UNIXes,
regardless of licensing status, I would be very much interested.
Some things probably are lost forever though, such as Proliant PL/I, VisualWorks 2.5,
Tibco S-PLUS, Harlequin WebWorks and such.
Thanks in advance, and all the best
Seb.
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7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
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10:42 p.m.
Both - Assume one goes down.
Kindest regards,
Doug Jackson
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ph: 0414 986878
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 at 17:30, John Robertson via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Archive.org or bitsavers.org?
John :-#)#
On 2024-12-12 5:51 p.m., jfsebastian--- via cctalk wrote:
Hello
I have been doing a several years effort to save (very) old software for
posterity, researchers, students. Mostly early 90s UNIXes, SunOS, Solaris,
DG-UX, HP-UX, AIX, DEC-UNIX, some VMS software even. I uploaded some things
to the Archive, and elsewhere, but I would rather get this off my
shoulders, for mortality affects us all. This vanishing would be a loss,
with many of these things are nowhere to be found anymore.
I tried contacting the admin(?) bear at typewritten dot org, offering a
few things for archiving, without results. Do any of the users here have
any means to contact the admin there? I would very much like to access some
of the UNIXes software there, and would gladly offer a quid pro quo.
Similarly, if you have any software for Solaris (2.6, earlier) and other
UNIXes, regardless of licensing status, I would be very much interested.
Some things probably are lost forever though,
such as Proliant PL/I,
VisualWorks 2.5, Tibco S-PLUS, Harlequin WebWorks and such.
Thanks in advance, and all the best
Seb.
--
John's Jukes Ltd.
7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
10:26 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfsebastian--- via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: 13 December 2024 01:52
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: jfsebastian(a)null.net
Subject: [cctalk] very old UNIXes software, contact at typewritten?
Hello
I have been doing a several years effort to save (very) old software for
posterity, researchers, students. Mostly early 90s UNIXes, SunOS, Solaris, DG-
UX, HP-UX, AIX, DEC-UNIX, some VMS software even. I uploaded some things
to the Archive, and elsewhere, but I would rather get this off my shoulders,
for mortality affects us all. This vanishing would be a loss, with many of these
things are nowhere to be found anymore.
I tried contacting the admin(?) bear at typewritten dot org, offering a few
things for archiving, without results. Do any of the users here have any means
to contact the admin there? I would very much like to access some of the
UNIXes software there, and would gladly offer a quid pro quo.
Similarly, if you have any software for Solaris (2.6, earlier) and other UNIXes,
regardless of licensing status, I would be very much interested.
Some things probably are lost forever though, such as Proliant PL/I,
VisualWorks 2.5, Tibco S-PLUS, Harlequin WebWorks and such.
Thanks in advance, and all the best
Seb.
Have you tried sending the material you want to archive to bitsavers?
Rob
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