6 Jul
2023
6 Jul
'23
10:39 p.m.
Just got the following message in the account that I use to receive
cctalk email:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello cclist,
The passwогd to your mailbox (cclist(a)sydex.com) expires in 24 hrs time.
Following this prompt, your webmail will log you out and generate a new
passwогd.
Alternatively, you can retain and continue using your cuггent passwогd,
by using the user secured button below;
Keep Cuггent Passwогd (link goes to cloudflare-ipfs.com)
This email is generated by sydex.com's mail server for cclist(a)sydex.com.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI
Chuck
6 Jul
6 Jul
11:16 p.m.
Chuck,
So what actions are we supposed to take??
I was going to go to the cloudflair link but got a message that this was a
dangerous site!
This link looks dangerous
This link opens a site that is likely to be harmful
Ken
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Just got the following message in the account that I
use to receive
cctalk email:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello cclist,
The passwогd to your mailbox (cclist(a)sydex.com) expires in 24 hrs time.
Following this prompt, your webmail will log you out and generate a new
passwогd.
Alternatively, you can retain and continue using your cuггent passwогd,
by using the user secured button below;
Keep Cuггent Passwогd (link goes to cloudflare-ipfs.com)
This email is generated by sydex.com's mail server for cclist(a)sydex.com.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI
Chuck
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JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
11:30 p.m.
You should ignore it, just like all other criminal messages of that kind.
paul
On Jul 6, 2023, at 7:16 PM, KenUnix via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Chuck,
So what actions are we supposed to take??
I was going to go to the cloudflair link but got a message that this was a
dangerous site!
This link looks dangerous
This link opens a site that is likely to be harmful
Ken
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Just got the following message in the account
that I use to receive
cctalk email:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello cclist,
The passwогd to your mailbox (cclist(a)sydex.com) expires in 24 hrs time.
Following this prompt, your webmail will log you out and generate a new
passwогd.
Alternatively, you can retain and continue using your cuггent passwогd,
by using the user secured button below;
Keep Cuггent Passwогd (link goes to cloudflare-ipfs.com)
This email is generated by sydex.com's mail server for cclist(a)sydex.com.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI
Chuck
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JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
7 Jul
7 Jul
12:18 a.m.
Okey Dokey Thanks.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 7:30 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
You should ignore it, just like all other criminal
messages of that kind.
paul
--
End of line
JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
On Jul 6, 2023, at 7:16 PM, KenUnix via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Chuck,
So what actions are we supposed to take??
I was going to go to the cloudflair link but got a message that this was
a
dangerous site!
This link looks dangerous
This link opens a site that is likely to be harmful
Ken
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
> Just got the following message in the account that I use to receive
> cctalk email:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello cclist,
>
> The passwогd to your mailbox (cclist(a)sydex.com) expires in 24 hrs time.
>
> Following this prompt, your webmail will log you out and generate a new
> passwогd.
>
>
> Alternatively, you can retain and continue using your cuггent passwогd,
> by using the user secured button below;
>
> Keep Cuггent Passwогd (link goes to cloudflare-ipfs.com)
>
> This email is generated by sydex.com's mail server for cclist(a)sydex.com
.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI
Chuck
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JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
12:47 a.m.
Hi Everybody.
It is important to keep everyone aware of phishing attempts, but it's also
important to make sure when you send warning emails to simply delete the
actual URL that the criminals provide so that nobody accidently clicks on
something...
Kind of like making sure that 400V capacitor was discharged before handing
it to your lab mate in class :-)
Kindest regards,
Doug Jackson
em: doug(a)doughq.com
ph: 0414 986878
Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 10:19, KenUnix via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Okey Dokey Thanks.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 7:30 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
--
End of line
JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
You should ignore it, just like all other
criminal messages of that kind.
paul
was
On Jul 6, 2023, at 7:16 PM, KenUnix via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> So what actions are we supposed to take??
>
> I was going to go to the cloudflair link but got a message that this
a
time.
dangerous site!
This link looks dangerous
This link opens a site that is likely to be harmful
Ken
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Just got the following message in the account that I use to receive
>> cctalk email:
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Hello cclist,
>>
>> The passwогd to your mailbox (cclist(a)sydex.com) expires in 24 hrs
>>
>> Following this prompt, your webmail will log you out and generate a
new
>> passwогd.
>>
>>
>> Alternatively, you can retain and continue using your cuггent
passwогd,
>> by using the user secured button
below;
>>
>> Keep Cuггent Passwогd (link goes to cloudflare-ipfs.com)
>>
>> This email is generated by sydex.com's mail server for
cclist(a)sydex.com
.
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI
Chuck
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End of line
JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
6:34 p.m.
On 7/6/23 7:47 PM, Doug Jackson wrote:
Hi Everybody.
Hi,
It is important to keep everyone aware of phishing
attempts, but it's
also important to make sure when you send warning emails to simply
delete the actual URL that the criminals provide so that nobody
accidently clicks on something...
As someone that tends to investigate a lot of things -- though not this
specific one -- I appreciate breaking, but not removing, URLs.
E.g.:
www.example.com
Becomes:
wwwDOTexampleDOTcom
or
www.exa BREAK LINK mple.com
So the data is there but is rendered safe for people.
Kind of like making sure that 400V capacitor was
discharged before
handing it to your lab mate in class :-)
What?!
<face palm with remaining good hand>
Grant. . . .
7:28 p.m.
> It is important to keep everyone aware of
phishing attempts, but it's=20
> also important to make sure when you send warning emails to simply=20
> delete the actual URL that the criminals provide so that nobody=20
> accidently clicks on something...
As someone that tends to investigate a lot of things
-- though not this=20
specific one -- I appreciate breaking, but not removing, URLs.
While bowdlerizing the link in an obvious way is probably a good plan,
it seems like blindly clicking on a link labeled BEWARE might not be a
good plan. :)
De
7:24 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:47 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Kind of like making sure that 400V capacitor was
discharged before handing
it to your lab mate in class :-)
How else are we to know that the capacitor is charged, or that the link is
dangerous?
;)
Sellam
10:20 p.m.
+ ---| |--- - ZAP
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 6:13 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
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End of line
JOB TERMINATED -->> Okey Dokey, OK Boss
> How else
are we to know that the capacitor is charged, or that the link
is
> dangerous?
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
I clicked on the link. Now all of my apes are
gone.
Perhaps your apes planted the malware as a diversion to escape?
8 Jul
8 Jul
2:49 a.m.
To be completely honest, Electrotechnology students with 415v DC bench
supplies and HV caps all learnt very quickly not to catch something when
somebody threw it to you.
Ahhh - The folly of youth :-)
Kindest regards,
Doug Jackson
em: doug(a)doughq.com
ph: 0414 986878
Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net
On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 at 09:18, Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 7/7/23 2:24 PM, Sellam Abraham wrote:
How else are we to know that the capacitor is
charged, or that the
link is dangerous?
You touch your neighbor with it. }:-)
Grant. . . .
1:36 p.m.
On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 12:49:43PM +1000, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote:
To be completely honest, Electrotechnology students
with 415v DC bench
supplies and HV caps all learnt very quickly not to catch something when
somebody threw it to you.
Old electricians wisdom: "Be wary of honking great capacitors, lest they
bite thee in the arse" ;-)
Ahhh - The folly of youth :-)
Was fun, though ;-)
Kind regards,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
2:09 p.m.
On 07/08/2023 8:36 AM CDT Alexander Schreiber via
cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 12:49:43PM +1000, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote:
http://wrcooke.net/electronics/ten_commandments.html
To be completely honest, Electrotechnology
students with 415v DC bench
supplies and HV caps all learnt very quickly not to catch something when
somebody threw it to you.
Old electricians wisdom: "Be wary of honking great
capacitors, lest they
bite thee in the arse" ;-)
> 
9:19 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 8:24 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Sellam Abraham <sellam.ismail(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: BEWARE: Phishing
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:47 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Despite what your browser says, the link itself isn't dangerous. Web browsers
aren't dangerous. Its USERS that are dangerous.
If it’s phishing it its relying on you putting in a password from another site, or in
selling you something like e-currency.
So before touching any high voltage capacitor best practice is to a discharge resistor
across the terminals and not rely on time or another person to discharge it.
So before putting your username and password into a web site it’s a good idea to check the
whole URL matches what you expect.
Often such e-mails will try and convince you something is time critical so in this case
" expires in 24 hrs time.
Kind of like making sure that 400V capacitor was
discharged before
handing it to your lab mate in class :-)
How else are we to know that the capacitor is charged, or that the link is
dangerous?
;)
Sellam
Dave
9:27 a.m.
... sorry sent this to soon...
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 8:24 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Sellam Abraham <sellam.ismail(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: BEWARE: Phishing
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:47 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Despite what your browser says, the link itself isn't dangerous. Web browsers
aren't dangerous. Its USERS that are dangerous.
If it’s phishing it its relying on you putting in a password from another site, or in
selling you something like e-currency.
(bitcoin is down again today)
So before touching any high voltage capacitor best practice is to a discharge resistor
across the terminals and not rely on time or another person to discharge it.
So before putting your username and password into a web site it’s a good idea to check the
whole URL matches what you expect.
Often such e-mails will try and convince you something is time critical so in this case
" expires in 24 hrs time.
This is to panic you into not making such checks....
... personally, I recommend a password manager. The you don't know any passwords and
can't put them in by accident, and it knows which passwords match which site URL so it
won't put them in a phishing site....
Kind of like making sure that 400V capacitor was
discharged before
handing it to your lab mate in class :-)
How else are we to know that the capacitor is charged, or that the link is
dangerous?
;)
Sellam
Dave
10 Jul
10 Jul
12:06 a.m.
On 7/8/23 4:27 AM, dave.g4ugm(a)gmail.com wrote:
... sorry sent this to soon...
Things happen.
Despite what your browser says, the link itself
isn't dangerous. Web browsers aren't dangerous. Its USERS that are dangerous.
All the single, or worse zero click, attack vectors tend to imply that
browsers (or software in general) definitely do have a hand in this.
So before putting your username and password into a
web site it’s a good idea to check the whole URL matches what you expect.
Sadly, some of the aforementioned vectors (bugs) have allowed malicious
sites to change the appearance of the address in the URL bar.
... personally, I recommend a password manager. The
you don't know
any passwords and can't put them in by accident, and it knows which
passwords match which site URL so it won't put them in a phishing
site....
+1 on password managers being a good idea.
PSA: Not all password managers are created equally.
Grant. . . .
12:46 a.m.
On 7/9/23 7:21 PM, John Herron wrote:
It can be a buzz kill if you visit about:logins on
Firefox.
Yes, that can be a bit of a surprise to someone not in the know.
But if you stop and think about it for a few minutes, any and all
password managers absolutely MUST have access to the unencrypted
passwords. Because it can't do it's job if it doesn't have access to
the unencrypted passwords.
Grant. . . .
7 Jul
7 Jul
8:17 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 07:16:38PM -0400, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
Chuck,
So what actions are we supposed to take??
Laugh, say "nix try", ignore that phishing attempt and move on with life.
I was going to go to the cloudflair link but got a
message that this was a
dangerous site!
Do not follow link in such emails, as at best, they'll point to a
deceptive trap (that tries to con you into handing over e.g. login
credentials).
Kind regards,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
8:38 p.m.
It probably goes without saying but if you did access the link or submit a
password, you'll want to reset any accounts using those credentials.
Interesting though. I didn't receive anything, but not complaining :-)
Thanks for reporting and the awareness.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 6:17 PM KenUnix via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Chuck,
So what actions are we supposed to take??
I was going to go to the cloudflair link but got a message that this was a
dangerous site!
This link looks dangerous
This link opens a site that is likely to be harmful
Ken
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Just got the following message in the account
that I use to receive
cctalk email:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello cclist,
The passwогd to your mailbox (cclist(a)sydex.com) expires in 24 hrs time.
Following this prompt, your webmail will log you out and generate a new
passwогd.
Alternatively, you can retain and continue using your cuггent passwогd,
by using the user secured button below;
Keep Cuггent Passwогd (link goes to cloudflare-ipfs.com)
This email is generated by sydex.com's mail server for cclist(a)sydex.com.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI
Chuck
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