9 Oct
2022
9 Oct
'22
11:15 p.m.
Hoping there's an Apple enthusiast out there somewhere please.
A friend gave me a PM G5 which I'd love to add to the Apple corner of my
collection. Must admit I love the G5 case. Problem is the internals are in a
million pieces but everything seems to be there. Its not a basket case, more
like a bucket case because I took the side off and basically poured it all
out.
My options are.
Toss it
Use the case for an ATX conversion
Use it for a letter box
Have a crack at fixing it.
I like having a crack at fixing things first. I'm a preservationist first.
Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how
the internals are put together and I'm hoping some Apple person out there
might have something or be able to point me somewhere. (I did find some
photos at https://www.overclock.net/threads/power-mac-g5-build.1452312/ for
a twin CPU model but I need more detail for a single chip 2.0 GHz PowerPC
970MP (G5) model.)
Thank you.
Kevin Parker
10 Oct
10 Oct
9:33 a.m.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:20, Kevin Parker via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how
the internals are put together
What? I am *amazed*. I don't know how you could _not_ find the info.
There is loads of it.
This is the first hit on "apple powermac g5 disassembly" --
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Power+Mac+G5+Motherboard/7579
This is the 2nd:
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Power_Mac_G5
It's one of the easiest machines ever to assemble or disassemble and
there's tons of info, videos, walkthrough, step by step guides etc.
4 words is not "Google-fu".
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12:16 p.m.
A few more useful sites:
https://tim.id.au/laptops/apple/powermac/powermac_g5.pdf
This one includes official Apple “take-apart procedures"
http://resale.headgap.com
Parts and components, in case you actually are missing something in their catalog.
Satisfied customer, no other relation.
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html
https://lowendmac.com/tag/power-mac-g5/
Specifications, benchmarks, etc.
Once you get it running, we are headed into winter when electric heaters may be
desirable.
These two sites:
https://www.distributed.net/Main_Page
http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com
Will give you semi-productive things to do with it; the G5 machines with altivec are
pretty good at RC5-72 compared to most CPUs, and TenFourFox is essentially a current
web-browser.
I’m also not a black-belt goog-fu artist. There is more available.
Hope this much is helpful, though.
- Mark
On Oct 10, 2022, at 11:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk
<cctalk@classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:20, Kevin Parker via cctalk
<cctalk@classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how
the internals are put together
What? I am *amazed*. I don't know how you could _not_ find the info.
There is loads of it.
This is the first hit on "apple powermac g5 disassembly" --
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Power+Mac+G5+Motherboard/7579
This is the 2nd:
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Power_Mac_G5
It's one of the easiest machines ever to assemble or disassemble and
there's tons of info, videos, walkthrough, step by step guides etc.
4 words is not "Google-fu".
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12:38 p.m.
On 10/10/22 11:33, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:20, Kevin Parker via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Liam, don't be a d**k.
Doc
Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how
the internals are put together
What? I am *amazed*. I don't know how you could _not_ find the info.
There is loads of it.
This is the first hit on "apple powermac g5 disassembly" --
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Power+Mac+G5+Motherboard/7579
This is the 2nd:
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Power_Mac_G5
It's one of the easiest machines ever to assemble or disassemble and
there's tons of info, videos, walkthrough, step by step guides etc.
4 words is not "Google-fu". 
12:56 p.m.
TenFourFox is essentially a current web-browser.
It's kind of you to say that, but at its core it's still just a hopped-up
Firefox 45. Many things work, many things work but look funny, and an
increasing proportion of things don't work at all. I myself just use it for
basic tasks now that I'm on a Raptor Talos II as my desktop machine, though I
do issue security patches on an irregular timeline.
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2:39 p.m.
On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
4 words is not "Google-fu".
Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem.
I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for
different people.
Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even
passively insult someone.
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unix || die
4:01 p.m.
I blame Google: it's complete trash now.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
4 words is not "Google-fu".
Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem.
I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for
different people.
Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even
passively insult someone.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
4:47 p.m.
On 2022-10-10 17:39, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
Indeed. Also, I have added more words and received more search
results. One would expect the opposite.
4 words is not "Google-fu".
Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. I've also seen Google return extremely different
search results for
different people.
Google also tailors results to location and cookies. (I always search
in private mode.) Not what it once was...(Sigh)
N.
11 Oct
11 Oct
8:16 a.m.
On 10/10/22 5:47 PM, Stuff Received via cctalk wrote:
Indeed. Also, I have added more words and received
more search
results. One would expect the opposite.
Google also tailors results to location and cookies. (I always search
in private mode.) Not what it once was...(Sigh)
Agreed all around with both you and Sellam.
I have pontificated writing my own search engine. But I've never found
neither sufficient round-2-its nor motivation to do so.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
8:59 a.m.
On 2022-10-10 5:01 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
I blame Google: it's complete trash now.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>> 4 words is not "Google-fu".
>
> Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem.
>
> I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for
> different people.
>
> Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even
> passively insult someone.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>
It is not trash. PAID sites get first pick in sorting, I suspect.
On the tablet,it picks what it thinks you want."neeps and haggis" might
get you "need a bag" rather than a scottish dinner
Using the other search engine.
Now Amazon and ebay, are trash.
Ben.
9:03 a.m.
Why would a paid link come up when searching for something vintage
computery? The results are not tailored to suit the searcher, but the
advertisers, regardless of the search terms. Hence: trash. And you're not
going to convince me otherwise. Google is the Deathstar of the internet.
Sellam
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:59 AM ben via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 2022-10-10 5:01 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk
wrote:
I blame Google: it's complete trash now.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>> 4 words is not "Google-fu".
>
> Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem.
>
> I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for
> different people.
>
> Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even
> passively insult someone.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>
It is not trash. PAID sites get first pick in sorting, I suspect.
On the tablet,it picks what it thinks you want."neeps and haggis" might
get you "need a bag" rather than a scottish dinner
Using the other search engine.
Now Amazon and ebay, are trash.
Ben.
2:54 p.m.
Thank you for all the responses to my query - they're really helpful.
I'm usually pretty handy with Google but must have lost the plot this day -
I was trying "pmg5 build" - doh.
Kevin Parker
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Sent: Monday, 10 October 2022 17:15
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: Kevin Parker <trash80(a)internode.on.net>
Subject: [cctalk] Apple G5 Rebuild
Hoping there's an Apple enthusiast out there somewhere please.
A friend gave me a PM G5 which I'd love to add to the Apple corner of my
collection. Must admit I love the G5 case. Problem is the internals are in a
million pieces but everything seems to be there. Its not a basket case, more
like a bucket case because I took the side off and basically poured it all
out.
My options are.
Toss it
Use the case for an ATX conversion
Use it for a letter box
Have a crack at fixing it.
I like having a crack at fixing things first. I'm a preservationist first.
Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how
the internals are put together and I'm hoping some Apple person out there
might have something or be able to point me somewhere. (I did find some
photos at https://www.overclock.net/threads/power-mac-g5-build.1452312/ for
a twin CPU model but I need more detail for a single chip 2.0 GHz PowerPC
970MP (G5) model.)
Thank you.
Kevin Parker
12 Oct
12 Oct
3:37 a.m.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 22:54, Doc Shipley via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Liam, don't be a d**k.
I am sorry. :-(
I did not think that calling out a bogus claim was a nasty thing to
do, but I sit corrected, and I apologise.
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