13 Jul
2024
13 Jul
'24
3:55 a.m.
I'm trying to source a new I/O cable for a Convergent WorkSlate (this one is
grody from degenerating plasticizers). It's 8P8C with a little offset snag
reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11: while an "RJ-45"
Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is the right width even though
it obviously doesn't have enough connectors. I messed around with filing down a
junk Ethernet patch cord but that's just making a mess bigger than the icky cable.
I think this is a standard connector, but I'm not sure which?
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13 Jul
13 Jul
4:46 a.m.
I'm trying to source a new I/O cable for a
Convergent WorkSlate (this
one is grody from degenerating plasticizers). It's 8P8C with a little
offset snag reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11:
while an "RJ-45" Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is
the right width even though it obviously doesn't have enough
connectors. I messed around with filing down a junk Ethernet patch
cord but that's just making a mess bigger than the icky cable.
There's a connector system called RJ Point 5, which puts the latch clip
on the narrow side, makes the connector half or less the width of a
standard 8p8c modular, and looks like it uses internal pins instead of
surface contacts.
De
5:45 a.m.
I'm trying
to source a new I/O cable for a Convergent WorkSlate (this
one is grody from degenerating plasticizers). It's 8P8C with a little
offset snag reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11:
while an "RJ-45" Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is
the right width even though it obviously doesn't have enough
connectors. I messed around with filing down a junk Ethernet patch
cord but that's just making a mess bigger than the icky cable.
There's a connector system called RJ Point 5, which puts the latch clip
on the narrow side, makes the connector half or less the width of a
standard 8p8c modular, and looks like it uses internal pins instead of
surface contacts. 
7:29 a.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
No, they're surface contacts. It looks like
Ethernet cabling and has the same
contact spacing as RJ-45 and RJ-11, but Ethernet is too wide for the jack. I
was wondering about RJ-45S or RJ-48, maybe.
It is my understanding that RJ-45 and RJ-48 are physically identical,
but have different RJ numbers because of different applications/pinouts.
I don't know what RJ-45S is.
M~
7:34 a.m.
Is it this one?
The multibutton phones like Merlin used them. Not quite rj45 not quite rj11.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/163813763385?itmmeta=01J2N97M75X5FFPCX85GNV9DNX&am…
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On Jul 12, 2024, at 22:30, Mychaela Falconia via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
No, they're surface contacts. It looks like Ethernet cabling and has the same
contact spacing as RJ-45 and RJ-11, but Ethernet is too wide for the jack. I
was wondering about RJ-45S or RJ-48, maybe.
It is my understanding that RJ-45 and RJ-48 are physically identical,
but have different RJ numbers because of different applications/pinouts.
I don't know what RJ-45S is.
M~
6:01 p.m.
Subject: [cctalk] 8P8C but width of an RJ-11
It's 8P8C with a little offset snag
reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11: while an
>"RJ-45"
Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is the right width >even though
it obviously doesn't have enough connectors. I messed around with >filing down a
junk Ethernet patch cord but that's just making a mess bigger than >the icky cable.
I think this is a standard connector, but I'm not
sure which?
Sandman Electronics carries what they call a 'universal' modular plug, 8P8C but
the width of a 6P6C or 4P4C (RJ11). You can look at it at
https://sandman.com/products/too5o-blue-universal-mod-plug and they're used for patch
cords for banjos, like used with clip lead butt sets. This way you can have one 8
connection banjo with 8P8C jacks but use it with both the wide 8P and medium 6/4P jacks
(of course NOT the narrow headset 4P jacks).
Sandman carries a lot of specialty stuff.
6:51 p.m.
It's 8P8C
with a little offset snag
reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11: while an
>"RJ-45"
Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is the right width >even though
it obviously doesn't have enough connectors. I messed around with >filing down a
junk Ethernet patch cord but that's just making a mess bigger than >the icky
cable.
I think this is a standard connector, but I'm not sure which?
Sandman Electronics carries what they call a 'universal' modular plug, 8P8C but
the width of a 6P6C or 4P4C (RJ11). You can look at it at
https://sandman.com/products/too5o-blue-universal-mod-plug and they're used for patch
cords for banjos, like used with clip lead butt sets. This way you can have one 8
connection banjo with 8P8C jacks but use it with both the wide 8P and medium 6/4P jacks
(of course NOT the narrow headset 4P jacks).
29 Aug
29 Aug
6:37 p.m.
It's 8P8C with a little offset snag
reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11: while an "RJ-45"
Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is the right width even though
it obviously doesn't have enough connectors. I messed around with filing down a
junk Ethernet patch cord but that's just making a mess bigger than the icky cable.
I think this is a standard connector, but I'm not sure which?
Sandman Electronics carries what they call a 'universal' modular plug, 8P8C but
the width of a 6P6C or 4P4C (RJ11). You can look at it at
https://sandman.com/products/too5o-blue-universal-mod-plug and they're used for patch
cords for banjos, like used with clip lead butt sets. This way you can have one 8
connection banjo with 8P8C jacks but use it with both the wide 8P and medium 6/4P jacks
(of course NOT the narrow headset 4P jacks).
9:22 p.m.
Patch cords…for banjos??
Telco service line sets, often called buttsets or banjos.
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10:22 p.m.
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Patch cords…for banjos??
A 'banjo' in this context is a device that breaks out the conductors of a modular
jack to test points. Older ones were round-ish and had a hardwired short flat cord
(usually 'silver satin' flat cable) with a modular plug on the end l. Sandman
carries an 8 conductor banjo with a short patch cord with two of these universal plugs on
it; https://sandman.com/products/too6g-modular-2-4-6-8-pin-butt-set-banjo-adapt…
Having said that, there are pickups available for the musical instrument banjo......but
that's not this banjo.
13 Jul
13 Jul
10:57 p.m.
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Patch cords…for banjos??
A postscript to my previous reply.... While 'Mean' Mary James doesn't
typically use one, Deering Banjo does have an acoustic-electric banjo:
https://www.deeringbanjos.com/products/deering-sierra-5-string-acoustic-ele…
And Led Zeppelin joins other rock bands to use the banjo in 'Gallows Pole' - even
Less Claypool goes 'bassjo' in Primus' 'The Air is Getting Slippery.'
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