13 May
2025
13 May
'25
1:41 a.m.
It is with some sadness to here of Skype's demise even though MS owned it.
It's not necessarily on topic of 'ancient' personal computing but then
again maybe it is!
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
13 May
13 May
1:58 a.m.
It's just another case of how long should a company maintain older
infrastructure in the face of new technologies and systems.
The conversion to Teams was relatively painless so it's not much of a
big deal for many.
There are also many alternatives to Skype if Teams doesn't work for you.
I am not a fan of Microsoft at all but how long can we expect them to
pay to keep old servers up and running?
Try to find 10 year old DDR2 RAM or a DVD Blou-Ray writer (or reader).Â
Even the automotive industry isn't required to maintain a parts
inventory for more than 10 years.
On 5/12/2025 6:41 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
It is with some sadness to here of Skype's demise
even though MS owned it.
It's not necessarily on topic of 'ancient' personal computing but then
again maybe it is!
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
9:33 a.m.
On 13/05/2025 00:58, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
It's just another case of how long should a
company maintain older
infrastructure in the face of new technologies and systems.
The conversion to Teams was relatively painless so it's not much of a
big deal for many.
There are also many alternatives to Skype if Teams doesn't work for you.
For those of us who had free minutes to a real landline in many
countries via "Skype Out"Â its a big loss that isn't replaced by Teams.
Skype once was a real help when I had a card blocked in the USA and was
sent a number to dial that was only accessible from the UK.
Nearly spoilt a VCF but I used Skype to call the UK presenting my UK
landline number.
Another great feature was that it if like me you had two phone numbers
in different countries it would present the one appropriate to that country.
So many won't miss it, but for those of us who used it to call real
numbers, there is nothing comparable to replace it.
I am not a fan of Microsoft at all but how long can we
expect them to
pay to keep old servers up and running?
Try to find 10 year old DDR2 RAM or a DVD Blou-Ray writer (or
reader). Even the automotive industry isn't required to maintain a
parts inventory for more than 10 years.
On 5/12/2025 6:41 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Dave
It is with some sadness to here of Skype's
demise even though MS
owned it.
It's not necessarily on topic of 'ancient' personal computing but then
again maybe it is!
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
5:44 p.m.
On Tue, 13 May 2025, David Wade via cctalk wrote:
So many won't miss it, but for those of us who
used it to call real numbers,
there is nothing comparable to replace it.
With the gradual demise of the POTS and mobile/cell handsets switching to
VoIP that won't be an issue soon (or rather the issue will be elsewhere).
Maciej
6:01 p.m.
So many
won't miss it, but for those of us who used it to call real numbers,
there is nothing comparable to replace it.
With the gradual demise of the POTS
and mobile/cell handsets switching to
VoIP that won't be an issue soon (or rather the issue will be elsewhere).
6:54 p.m.
On 13/05/2025 17:01, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
Currently my Australian wife and I solve the problem of having numbers in both
countries using dual SIMs and Wi-Fi calling (my American Pixel 7 Pro has both
AT&T and Telstra, one via eSIM). As long as we have Wi-Fi on either shore, we
can make and place phone calls to either country from either country, and the
numbers are local. She was also a big user of Skype calling, but having this
now part of her handset is simpler.
It is an issue as with Skype we got 60 minutes to 60 countries.....
Dave
So many won't miss it, but for those of us who
used it to call real numbers,
there is nothing comparable to replace it.
With the gradual demise of the POTS
and mobile/cell handsets switching to
VoIP that won't be an issue soon (or rather the issue will be elsewhere). 
8:09 p.m.
Dumb question: how do you make a phone call over WiFi?
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 12:08 PM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
to
> So many won't miss it, but for those of
us who used it to call real
numbers,
there is
nothing comparable to replace it.
With the gradual demise of the POTS and mobile/cell handsets switching
VoIP that won't be an issue soon (or rather
the issue will be elsewhere).
Currently my Australian wife and I solve the problem of having numbers in
both
countries using dual SIMs and Wi-Fi calling (my American Pixel 7 Pro has
both
AT&T and Telstra, one via eSIM). As long as we have Wi-Fi on either shore,
we
can make and place phone calls to either country from either country, and
the
numbers are local. She was also a big user of Skype calling, but having
this
now part of her handset is simpler.
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9:01 p.m.
On Tue, 13 May 2025 at 14:58, Mike Stein via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Dumb question: how do you make a phone call over
WiFi?
Many modern phones/carriers have support for this, and if it's supported by
both it's usually just a matter of turning it on in your phone's options.
On my Android 12 phone it's in Settings -> Network & Internet -> Calls
&
SMS.
-Henry
9:28 p.m.
I'm not interested in downloading a bunch of closed-source applications so
I always use a browser. Zoom always gets the wrong input source but apart
from that I've been able to use any platform that I've been invited to.
Teams used to be a bit weird about expecting a microsoft account but tey
seem to have fixed it. I can't necessarily create a session for all of
them. I tend to prefer google meet for simplicity.
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 8:08 PM Henry Bent via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2025 at 14:58, Mike Stein via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
wrote:
> Dumb question: how do you make a phone call over WiFi?
Many modern phones/carriers have support for this, and if it's supported by
both it's usually just a matter of turning it on in your phone's options.
On my Android 12 phone it's in Settings -> Network & Internet -> Calls
&
SMS.
-Henry
11:09 p.m.
On Tue, 13 May 2025, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote:
I'm not interested in downloading a bunch of
closed-source applications so
I always use a browser. [...]
Well, this ship has sailed already. Unless you disable Javascript, which
in turn makes hardly anything work nowadays, you've already lost control
over what your browser (and consequently computer) downloads and runs.
Maciej
10:48 a.m.
Actually the move had way more hidden interests , I think. I'm one of the migrated
people and now I painfully realized that to add new people into chatrooms that I had
ongoing, is a very complicate and painful process easily prone to failure UNLESS you move
to a paid tier.
Even the invite link you give around to join a room, is effectively not working.
So you need to add the contact you want in, because searching for registered users not in
your contacts is crippled in free mode, but you cannot add to google since they
discontinued the syncing ... and once you add to Hotmail it may take up to 24h to sync
"Wonderful" experience, that's motivating my group to migrate fully to
telegram
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From: Mike Katz via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2025 1:58 AM
To: Murray McCullough via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Mike Katz <bitwiz(a)12bitsbest.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Skype
It's just another case of how long should a company maintain older infrastructure in
the face of new technologies and systems.
The conversion to Teams was relatively painless so it's not much of a big deal for
many.
There are also many alternatives to Skype if Teams doesn't work for you.
I am not a fan of Microsoft at all but how long can we expect them to pay to keep old
servers up and running?
Try to find 10 year old DDR2 RAM or a DVD Blou-Ray writer (or reader). Even the automotive
industry isn't required to maintain a parts inventory for more than 10 years.
On 5/12/2025 6:41 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
It is with some sadness to here of Skype's demise
even though MS owned it.
It's not necessarily on topic of 'ancient' personal computing but then
again maybe it is!
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
5:01 p.m.
On 5/12/25 18:58, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
It's just another case of how long should a
company
maintain older infrastructure in the face of new
technologies and systems.
The conversion to Teams was relatively painless so it's
not much of a big deal for many.
There are also many alternatives to Skype if Teams doesn't
work for you.
Well, if you run Linux, Skype WAS one of the conference
platforms that was available.
I doubt there is a way to join a Teams conference from a
Linux system.
Jon
5:09 p.m.
If I'm not mistaken, teams runs also from a browser and the OS should not matter in
that case
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Elson via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2025 5:02 PM
To: Mike Katz via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Jon Elson <elson(a)pico-systems.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Skype
On 5/12/25 18:58, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
It's just another case of how long should a
company maintain older
infrastructure in the face of new technologies and systems.
The conversion to Teams was relatively painless so it's not much of a
big deal for many.
There are also many alternatives to Skype if Teams doesn't work for
you.
Well, if you run Linux, Skype WAS one of the conference platforms that was available.
I doubt there is a way to join a Teams conference from a Linux system.
Jon
14 May
14 May
7:12 a.m.
There is a native Teams application for Linux. I used it all the time
at NVIDIA (before I retired) as that was the messaging/call platform
that was used within the company. Most folks used the Windows version
but there were quite a few of us who ran everything on Linux since all
of our development was on Linux and why have 2 (or more) systems to keep
running. ;-)
On 5/13/25 08:38, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2025, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk
wrote:
--
TTFN - Guy
If I'm not mistaken, teams runs also from a
browser and the OS should
not matter in that case
It's a resource hog compared to other platforms, but
yes it does work via
a browser under Linux.
Maciej
15 May
15 May
2:51 a.m.
There is a native Teams application for Linux.
Well, to the extent Electron can be considered native ...
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2:02 a.m.
I remember finding it odd during the start of the pandemic that Zoom was
the default video conferencing app, instead of Skype.
Oh how things change so quickly!
On 2025-05-12 7:41 p.m., Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
It is with some sadness to here of Skype's demise
even though MS owned it.
It's not necessarily on topic of 'ancient' personal computing but then
again maybe it is!
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
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