I miss Kilobaud, myself. W2NSD really had a great rag for the early micro crowd. I think Wayne passed in 2013. --Chuck

Thanks for the pointer. I found https://www.computesgazette.com/generative-ai-and-game-development-a-necess… particularly interesting. I tend to agree with developer he interacted with : the use of these tools devalues the product. It may be that there are some uses that are valuable, as the writer tried to determine. But many visual images have characteristics that immediately mark them out as AI generated. Perhaps images are particularly prone to pattern-matching and categorisation, as it's something our brains are really good at. For me, in the case of the image he shows, that's the high contrast, strong colours and sharp lines. That is a style that predates 'AI slop' and perhaps is especially common in retro game areas (it echoes early computer graphics, albeit with better resolution) but seems to have been picked up by AI generators .. or perhaps it's just the choice of the person using the tool, or a bias in the training data. On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 12:43 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk < cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; wrote: