16 Jul
2024
16 Jul
'24
6:49 p.m.
Yes I find them useful also. But they are almost all archived on archive.org.. so I
wondered how much value an actual paper copy would have. I thought Peoples Computer
Company had a decent circulation (like in the tens of thousands) and could be expected to
turn up from time to time. Have to pay more attention.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Degnan via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-16 3:38 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: "General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Cc: Bill
Degnan <billdegnan(a)gmail.com> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Old vintage computing
magazine/newsletters Personally I find them invaluable for research.BillOn Tue, Jul 16,
2024, 5:53 PM Brad H via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>wrote:> Just a
'survey' sort of question - how much value do you guys put in> vintage>
copies of old newsletters, magazines, etc. I'm talking mid-1970s, like>
People's Computer Company, etc. Someone has been selling them one at a> time>
on ebay and they routinely go for $125+ each! Was PCC fairly low> circulation? I have
no idea how rare these things are - if I should just> dive in to have my memento or
wait. Looking at auction history it seems to> be the same group of 2 or 3 bidders
going nuts over them.>>>> One newsletter I would love to find an original copy
of is Micro-8.. but I> think the circulation on that was just a hundred or so, so
probably> unlikely. It has some blurbs from Grant Runyan in there, who built my
TVT> and Mark-8.>>>> But yeah, I just wondered if you guys think generally
this stuff *should&> be> considered valuable - given most/all is archived
online.>>>> Brad>>
16 Jul
16 Jul
7:21 p.m.
New subject: Old vintage computing magazine/newsletters
I actually enjoy reading physical issues, so I keep them when I come
across them. Most of my paper mag collection is mine from BITD, but
I've gathered ones from other platforms and issues before I subscribed
to a periodical (Compute!, for instance).
If I need to research something, though, I use archive.org. And, if I
had issues that were not archived (or newslettters), I'd archive them first.
I would *NOT* pay $125.00 for an issue. I doubt I'd pay that for a
collection of issues. But, if I saw a few for $1/issue or something,
I'd buy them.
Jim
9:05 p.m.
New subject: Old vintage computing magazine/newsletters
https://www.worldradiohistory.com/index.htm
Has a lot of old electronics and computer mags in pdf form.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 16, 2024, at 16:22, Jim Brain via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I actually enjoy reading physical issues, so I keep them when I come across them. Most
of my paper mag collection is mine from BITD, but I've gathered ones from other
platforms and issues before I subscribed to a periodical (Compute!, for instance).
If I need to research something, though, I use archive.org. And, if I had issues that
were not archived (or newslettters), I'd archive them first.
I would *NOT* pay $125.00 for an issue. I doubt I'd pay that for a collection of
issues. But, if I saw a few for $1/issue or something, I'd buy them.
Jim
20 Jul
20 Jul
1:55 a.m.
New subject: Old vintage computing magazine/newsletters
The main appeal of digital archives is that they can then be digitally
scanned. And, I think it would be useful to have an "AI" of sorts that
can parse and categorize all those old articles (like "technical articles"
versus "advertisements" - or something that could find first/last names of
folks who authored articles or were mentioned in articles, and try to map
them between articles). (to me AI is more about assisted or augmented
intelligence, not actual artificial intelligence)
But the appeal of printed material is "validation" that those digital
archives aren't AI-generated or "doctored." Aside from the technical
details, they are also witness to the cultural aspects of how things were
presented and advertised. But as real estate costs grow, for sure there
comes a point where we just can't physically store everything (or at least
not everything in a safe, roden-protected, weather-proof means).
In a way - modern society is "migrating" into cyberspace. I suspect within
100 years we'll have a "digital nation" online, where from today's
perspective we're not able to comprehend how they'll address physical
legal boundaries between the virtual ones. Or as we recognize that we're
just not equipped to expand into outer-space, effectively the depth of
cyberspace is nearly equally infinite.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 5:49 PM brad via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Yes I find them useful also. But they are almost all
archived on
archive.org.. so I wondered how much value an actual paper copy would
have. I thought Peoples Computer Company had a decent circulation (like in
the tens of thousands) and could be expected to turn up from time to time.
Have to pay more attention.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-16 3:38 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To:
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Bill Degnan <billdegnan(a)gmail.com> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Old vintage
computing magazine/newsletters Personally I find them invaluable for
research.BillOn Tue, Jul 16, 2024, 5:53 PM Brad H via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org>wrote:> Just a 'survey' sort of question - how much
value do you guys put in> vintage> copies of old newsletters, magazines,
etc. I'm talking mid-1970s, like> People's Computer Company, etc. Someone
has been selling them one at a> time> on ebay and they routinely go for
$125+ each! Was PCC fairly low> circulation? I have no idea how rare
these things are - if I should just> dive in to have my memento or wait.
Looking at auction history it seems to> be the same group of 2 or 3 bidders
going nuts over them.>>>> One newsletter I would love to find an original
copy of is Micro-8.. but I> think the circulation on that was just a
hundred or so, so probably> unlikely. It has some blurbs from Grant Runyan
in there, who built my TVT> and Mark-8.>>>> But yeah, I just wondered if
you guys think generally this stuff *should&> be> considered valuable -
given most/all is archived online.>>>> Brad>>
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