13 Oct
2024
13 Oct
'24
11:48 p.m.
1945 - 2024
Found dead 10/11/24 in a "wellness check".
Little or no other information yet.
Ward Christensen created the first "BBS".
Then, when he needed to transfer files, he created XMODEM. The XMODEM
protocols became the de facto standard for transferring files.
Later, there was some competition from Kermit, but, other than being "FROM A
UNIVERSITY!", it wasn't nearly as good.
Not only are all of the greats dying off, but soon there won't be anybody
around who even knew about them.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
14 Oct
14 Oct
1:03 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
1945 - 2024
Found dead 10/11/24 in a "wellness check".
Little or no other information yet.
I was trying to find an obit for this. His Wikipedia entry is updated, but as
of a couple hours ago had no citation for his date of death.
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1:10 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
I'm afraid time abides no one! It seems that the greats were of an earlier
time, no pun intended, but they were pioneers who made technology work for
them.Happy computing. Murray 🙂
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 9:05 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
1945 - 2024
Found dead 10/11/24 in a "wellness check".
Little or no other information yet.
Ward Christensen created the first "BBS".
Then, when he needed to transfer files, he created XMODEM. The XMODEM
protocols became the de facto standard for transferring files.
Later, there was some competition from Kermit, but, other than being "FROM
A
UNIVERSITY!", it wasn't nearly as good.
Not only are all of the greats dying off, but soon there won't be anybody
around who even knew about them.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
1:20 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Your book should probably have a chapter on the age of BBS's
With thorough mention of Ward Christensen
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
On Sun, 13 Oct 2024, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
> I'm afraid time abides no one! It seems that the greats were of an earlier
> time, no pun intended, but they were pioneers who made technology work for
> them.Happy computing. Murray 🙂
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 9:05 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> 1945 - 2024
>>
>> Found dead 10/11/24 in a "wellness check".
>>
>> Little or no other information yet.
>>
>> Ward Christensen created the first "BBS".
>> Then, when he needed to transfer files, he created XMODEM. The XMODEM
>> protocols became the de facto standard for transferring files.
>> Later, there was some competition from Kermit, but, other than being "FROM
>> A
>> UNIVERSITY!", it wasn't nearly as good.
>>
>>
>> Not only are all of the greats dying off, but soon there won't be anybody
>> around who even knew about them.
>>
>> --
>> Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
3:40 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Sad indeed, and thanks for letting the group know.
I had the honor of meeting with Ward last year at VCF. I was so excited in
meeting with him, I forgot to ask and get a proper photo with him. But he
did sign my Computer Lib book that I had with me - I bring it with me
to VCFs just for that purpose, of a chance encounter with one of the living
legends. I found a candid image later. He was helping teach soldering at
the tables setup at VCF, very enjoyable to talk with him (I ran a BBS for
about 5 years right around 1990, and never-ever imagined that I'd meet the
guy who started it all). I wrote about my encounter with him here:
https://voidstar.blog/vcf-mw-midwest-2023/
Maybe VCF West and the great CHM might consider a kind of computing "hall
of fame". It may be hard to decide who meets that threshold, but one
criteria might be that of being humble enough to attend a VCF.
If anyone is involved with Commander X16, we're in need of an xmodem
implementation for one of the terminals in that system. I think we could
pull it off in BASIC even.
-Steve
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 8:20 PM Murray McCullough via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I'm afraid time abides no one! It seems that the
greats were of an earlier
time, no pun intended, but they were pioneers who made technology work for
them.Happy computing. Murray 🙂
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 9:05 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
1945 - 2024
Found dead 10/11/24 in a "wellness check".
Little or no other information yet.
Ward Christensen created the first "BBS".
Then, when he needed to transfer files, he created XMODEM. The XMODEM
protocols became the de facto standard for transferring files.
Later, there was some competition from Kermit, but, other than being
"FROM
A
UNIVERSITY!", it wasn't nearly as good.
Not only are all of the greats dying off, but soon there won't be anybody
around who even knew about them.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
5:34 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
I will rename my PMMI 600 bps modem after him.
Are there documentation of messages on his board? I have logs on 5.25" floppy disks
of all my sessions after I got a computer, and printed out. Gettig the floppies read
could be a challenge. Has recovering them become more important? Have others saved and
made available examples of the chatter on his board?
15 Oct
15 Oct
4:46 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
I think it's worth noting that Ward's body wasn't found until apparently a
couple days after he passed. People had been trying to contact him with no
reply forthcoming, and it wasn't until a couple days later when someone
finally went to check on him that they discovered him dead.
A lot of us are old, some getting older. Just a suggestion: check on your
older friends often and make sure you follow up if you don't hear from them.
Sellam
5:14 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Ward was 3 years older than me. I email someone every morning with an email that is titled
Up. No deep discourse. Just a sentence saying what I plan to do that day. They either
send or reply to me with the same. If we have not heard from each other by 11:00 we try
text. If that does not work we contact their local police and ask for a welfare check. I
also send a daily meme to another person. I may ask if they care to get in on the
scheme.
There are paid services that basically do the same thing.
On Oct 15, 2024, at 09:48, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I think it's worth noting that Ward's body wasn't found until apparently a
couple days after he passed. People had been trying to contact him with no
reply forthcoming, and it wasn't until a couple days later when someone
finally went to check on him that they discovered him dead.
A lot of us are old, some getting older. Just a suggestion: check on your
older friends often and make sure you follow up if you don't hear from them.
Sellam
16 Oct
16 Oct
5:50 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Ward was 3 years older than me. I email someone every
morning with an
email that is titled Up. No deep discourse. Just a sentence saying what
I plan to do that day. They either send or reply to me with the same.
If we have not heard from each other by 11:00 we try text. If that does
not work we contact their local police and ask for a welfare check. I
also send a daily meme to another person. I may ask if they care to get
in on the scheme.
That is really smart. More people should do this if they have the resources/capacity for
it.
There are paid services that basically do the same thing.
Wow, are you located in the USA? You hear about these types of things but always in Japan
(e.g. grandchildren for hire or the other way around grandparents for hire) but I
didn't think we had any in the USA.
-Ali
17 Oct
17 Oct
2:08 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
https://carecheckers.com/
https://www.seniorresource.com/daily-check-in-services-for-seniors-living-a…
On Oct 16, 2024, at 10:51, Ali via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:

Ward was 3 years older than me. I email someone every morning with an
email that is titled Up. No deep discourse. Just a sentence saying what
I plan to do that day. They either send or reply to me with the same.
If we have not heard from each other by 11:00 we try text. If that does
not work we contact their local police and ask for a welfare check. I
also send a daily meme to another person. I may ask if they care to get
in on the scheme.
That is really smart. More people should do this if they have the resources/capacity for
it.
There are paid services that basically do the same thing.
Wow, are you located in the USA? You hear about these types of things but always in Japan
(e.g. grandchildren for hire or the other way around grandparents for hire) but I
didn't think we had any in the USA.
-Ali
15 Oct
15 Oct
4:49 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 10:35 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Maybe VCF West and the great CHM might consider a kind
of computing "hall
of fame". It may be hard to decide who meets that threshold, but one
criteria might be that of being humble enough to attend a VCF.
CHM has its "Fellows" ==> https://computerhistory.org/hall-of-fellows/
Sellam
14 Oct
14 Oct
9:06 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Sunday, October 13th, 2024 at 16:48, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Not only are all of the greats dying off, but soon
there won't be anybody
around who even knew about them.
Some of us younger folks remember him. BBSes and Xmodem got me through high school in
the
90's.
He's been added to my GNU-Clacks-Overhead header, for whatever that might be worth.
The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
Don't be mean. You don't have to be mean.
9:38 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Not only are
all of the greats dying off, but soon there won't be anybody
around who even knew about them.
Some of us younger folks remember him. BBSes and Xmodem got me through high school in
the
90's.
9:56 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
I remmeber using X-Modem to download a term program
that had Z-Modem,
so I
didn't have to type in filenames and could batch stuff. Plus auto-
start.
I think I started with Procom (yuck) then moved to Telix and QModem. I
do
remember Telemate as well.
When Z-modem started being built in the comm programs it was a game changer.
Before then you had to use the DSZ external program and setup variables to
get Z-Modem. Man I miss those days. Tons of innovation everywhere and it
seemed like every other month there was a new term program or protocol
(C-Modem, J-Modem, N-Modem... I was waiting for them to run out of letters).
The next big game changer was HS-Link. Bi directional transfer, efficient,
and you could chat. Too bad the author lost the source code to the program
and it was never took off like it could have.
-Ali
10:10 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
(C-Modem, J-Modem, N-Modem... I was waiting for them
to run out of letters).
Washington, DC had a solution to that exact problem:
"Once the alphabet to Y is exhausted, the street names are double syllable
words from A to Y followed by triple syllable words A to Y followed by the
names of trees and flowers. Sometimes, this system is referred to as the
first, second, third, and fourth alphabets."
https://badercondominium.org/Bader_Streets.html#:~:text=Once%20the%20alphab….
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
11:22 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
(C-Modem, J-Modem, N-Modem... I was waiting for them
to run out of
letters).
Speaking of alphabetic order, . . .
35 years ago, I was interviewed for a puff piece in the comdex daily "news".
Among other amateur stupid questions, I was asked "Do you want FAME?"
I replied, "Well, someday, I'd like to be recognized a little, and
maybe even listed along with Ward Christensen."
The very next year, the attendee roster of a conference I went to listed:
...
Christensen, Ward
Cisin, Fred
Cisler, Steve
...
That is much preferable to being listed with him in the subject
line of this thread
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
11:31 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Does anyone have any information about visitation or a wake or funeral?
On 10/14/2024 6:22 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
(C-Modem, J-Modem, N-Modem... I was waiting for
them to run out of
letters).
Speaking of alphabetic order, . . .
35 years ago, I was interviewed for a puff piece in the comdex daily
"news".
Among other amateur stupid questions, I was asked "Do you want FAME?"
I replied, "Well, someday, I'd like to be recognized a little, and
maybe even listed along with Ward Christensen."
The very next year, the attendee roster of a conference I went to listed:
...
Christensen, Ward
Cisin, Fred
Cisler, Steve
...
That is much preferable to being listed with him in the subject line
of this thread
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred            cisin(a)xenosoft.com
11:43 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Mike Katz wrote:
Does anyone have any information about visitation or a
wake or funeral?
I was unable to find any information using Google. Nothing about cause of
death, memorial services, etc.
If you find any information, please share.
15 Oct
15 Oct
11:16 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Here is a little more information:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/ward-christensen-bbs-inventor-and-a…
still no cause of death ("probably natural causes"), memorial services,
relatives/loved ones left behind, etc.
16 Oct
16 Oct
12:26 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
When someone dies at home with no doctor present, an autopsy is always done and it takes
awhile.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2024, at 16:17, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Here is a little more information:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/ward-christensen-bbs-inventor-and-a…
still no cause of death ("probably natural causes"), memorial services,
relatives/loved ones left behind, etc.
1:54 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Don’t know when it started, but at least 30 years.
Cause of death is a must.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2024, at 17:44, Ali
<cctalk(a)ibm51xx.net> wrote:

When someone dies at home with no doctor present, an autopsy is always
done and it takes awhile.
Since when?
-Ali
2:44 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Don’t know when it started, but at least 30 years.
Cause of death is a must.
What does that even mean: "Cause of death is a must"?
Are you referring to a cause of death being listed on the death certificate? Then yes, a
cause needs to be written. However, that does not require an autopsy in significant
majority of cases.
Again I am not sure where you are coming up with 100% autopsy requirement? Heck, even
cases where the law requires referral to the coroner it is entirely in the purview of the
coroner if they wish to take the case and subsequently do an autopsy. Autopsies are
expensive and very time consuming. Nobody is doing any unnecessary autopsies for free.
-Ali
3:01 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
When my mom died, at home , at age 99, the ambulance people said that an autopsy has to be
performed when someone dies at home. The police also came and said the same thing.
When my mother-in-law passed, in the hospital, no autopsy needed to be done.
I did not ask specifics in either case.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2024, at 19:44, Ali
<cctalk(a)ibm51xx.net> wrote:

Don’t know when it started, but at least 30 years.
Cause of death is a must.
What does that even mean: "Cause of death is a must"?
Are you referring to a cause of death being listed on the death certificate? Then yes, a
cause needs to be written. However, that does not require an autopsy in significant
majority of cases.
Again I am not sure where you are coming up with 100% autopsy requirement? Heck, even
cases where the law requires referral to the coroner it is entirely in the purview of the
coroner if they wish to take the case and subsequently do an autopsy. Autopsies are
expensive and very time consuming. Nobody is doing any unnecessary autopsies for free.
-Ali
3:06 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
When my mom died, at home , at age 99, the ambulance
people said that
an autopsy has to be performed when someone dies at home. The police
also came and said the same thing.
When my mother-in-law passed, in the hospital, no autopsy needed to be
done.
I did not ask specifics in either case.
Was an autopsy actually done? Did they contact you with a report/result? I can almost
guarantee that a 99 y.o. passing in her home will not warrant an autopsy short of some
other horrible thing happening at the same time e.g. arsonist set the house on fire and
now the DA wants to link the death to the arson to add a murder charge.
-Ali
3:13 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
> When my mom died, at home , at age 99, the
ambulance people said that
> an autopsy has to be performed when someone dies at home. The police
> also came and said the same thing.
> When my mother-in-law passed, in the hospital, no autopsy needed to be
> done.
> I did not ask specifics in either case.
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Was an autopsy actually done? Did they contact you
with a report/result? I can almost guarantee that a 99 y.o. passing in her home will not
warrant an autopsy short of some other horrible thing happening at the same time e.g.
arsonist set the house on fire and now the DA wants to link the death to the arson to add
a murder charge.
Are there differences in different areas?
Is "autopsy has to be performed" a city, county, state, or federal mandate?
Ward Christensen died in Rolling Meadows, IL
What are the rules THERE?
3:28 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
As for my Mom, she had a heart attack, heart stopped , paramedics got it restarted but
she passed before she could even be loaded into the ambulance. It took about 7 minutes
from call to ambulance arriving. The death certificate said she died of a heart attack,
which she was on medication for. I don’t think a full autopsy was performed, just a
toxicology. They can tell some things from just tox and blood tests.
Another oddity, is that when you sell your house, at least here in California, there is a
check box on the realtor form asking if someone died in the house.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2024, at 20:13, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:

> When my mom died, at home , at age 99, the ambulance people said that
> an autopsy has to be performed when someone dies at home. The police
> also came and said the same thing.
> When my mother-in-law passed, in the hospital, no autopsy needed to be
> done.
> I did not ask specifics in either case.
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Was an autopsy actually done? Did they contact you with a report/result? I can almost
guarantee that a 99 y.o. passing in her home will not warrant an autopsy short of some
other horrible thing happening at the same time e.g. arsonist set the house on fire and
now the DA wants to link the death to the arson to add a murder charge.
Are there differences in different areas?
Is "autopsy has to be performed" a city, county, state, or federal mandate?
Ward Christensen died in Rolling Meadows, IL
What are the rules THERE?
4:30 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Also, a clandestine drug lab needs to be disclosed (another fun fact).
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 15, 2024, at 8:28 PM, Wayne S via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
As for my Mom, she had a heart attack, heart stopped , paramedics got it restarted but
she passed before she could even be loaded into the ambulance. It took about 7 minutes
from call to ambulance arriving. The death certificate said she died of a heart attack,
which she was on medication for. I don’t think a full autopsy was performed, just a
toxicology. They can tell some things from just tox and blood tests.
Another oddity, is that when you sell your house, at least here in California, there is a
check box on the realtor form asking if someone died in the house.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 15, 2024, at 20:13, Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>
> 
>>
>>> When my mom died, at home , at age 99, the ambulance people said that
>>> an autopsy has to be performed when someone dies at home. The police
>>> also came and said the same thing.
>>> When my mother-in-law passed, in the hospital, no autopsy needed to be
>>> done.
>>> I did not ask specifics in either case.
>
>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
>> Was an autopsy actually done? Did they contact you with a report/result? I can
almost guarantee that a 99 y.o. passing in her home will not warrant an autopsy short of
some other horrible thing happening at the same time e.g. arsonist set the house on fire
and now the DA wants to link the death to the arson to add a murder charge.
>
> Are there differences in different areas?
> Is "autopsy has to be performed" a city, county, state, or federal
mandate?
>
>
> Ward Christensen died in Rolling Meadows, IL
> What are the rules THERE?
>
5:50 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
As for my Mom, she had a heart attack, heart stopped ,
paramedics got
it restarted but she passed before she could even be loaded into the
ambulance. It took about 7 minutes from call to ambulance arriving.
The death certificate said she died of a heart attack, which she was on
medication for. I don’t think a full autopsy was performed, just a
toxicology. They can tell some things from just tox and blood tests.
I would be surprised if they even did a toxicology. The manner of death was pretty clear.
The receiving physician would have declared her DOA either on arrival over the phone and
the manner of death would be recorded as such.
Another oddity, is that when you sell your house, at least here in
California, there is a check box on the realtor form asking if someone
died in the house.
This is accurate. It is mostly aimed at people who died in a violent crime but of course
applies to everyone. I think it stems from a case where someone was killed in their home,
the home was sold, and the perpetrators came back not knowing the home was sold and then
attacked the new owners by mistake. But don't quote me on that.
-Ali
7:49 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Unholy hell, no one cares about how or when or why an autopsy is performed.
Put it to rest.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 11:00 AM Ali via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
As for my Mom,
she had a heart attack, heart stopped , paramedics got
it restarted but she passed before she could even be loaded into the
ambulance. It took about 7 minutes from call to ambulance arriving.
The death certificate said she died of a heart attack, which she was on
medication for. I don’t think a full autopsy was performed, just a
toxicology. They can tell some things from just tox and blood tests.
I would be surprised if they even did a toxicology. The manner of death
was pretty clear. The receiving physician would have declared her DOA
either on arrival over the phone and the manner of death would be recorded
as such.
Another oddity, is that when you sell your house, at least here in
California, there is a check box on the realtor form asking if someone
died in the house.
This is accurate. It is mostly aimed at people who died in a violent crime
but of course applies to everyone. I think it stems from a case where
someone was killed in their home, the home was sold, and the perpetrators
came back not knowing the home was sold and then attacked the new owners by
mistake. But don't quote me on that.
-Ali
1:58 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
when my brother died at home, in bed, with his wife, in evanston so same state different
city, an autopsy had to be performed. What if a relative came back 5 months later and
claimed the wife killed him? what if a home intruder killed the person, including by
feeding carbon monoxide into the building or something even less obvious? besides
possible criminal behavior, there is inheritance issues. Or if he died from eating bad
food, somebody to be sued by heirs. the hospital is excluded because the doctor's
statement is sufficient.
<pre>--Carey</pre>
On 10/15/2024 10:13 PM CDT Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> When my mom died, at home , at age 99, the
ambulance people said that
> an autopsy has to be performed when someone dies at home. The police
> also came and said the same thing.
> When my mother-in-law passed, in the hospital, no autopsy needed to be
> done.
> I did not ask specifics in either case.
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Was an autopsy actually done? Did they contact
you with a report/result? I can almost guarantee that a 99 y.o. passing in her home will
not warrant an autopsy short of some other horrible thing happening at the same time e.g.
arsonist set the house on fire and now the DA wants to link the death to the arson to add
a murder charge.
Are there differences in different areas?
Is "autopsy has to be performed" a city, county, state, or federal mandate?
Ward Christensen died in Rolling Meadows, IL
What are the rules THERE?
5:50 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
when my brother died at home, in bed, with his wife,
in evanston so
same state different city, an autopsy had to be performed. What if a
relative came back 5 months later and claimed the wife killed him?
what if a home intruder killed the person, including by feeding carbon
monoxide into the building or something even less obvious? besides
possible criminal behavior, there is inheritance issues. Or if he died
from eating bad food, somebody to be sued by heirs. the hospital is
excluded because the doctor's statement is sufficient.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
https://www.cookcountyil.gov/content/medical-examiner-frequently-asked-ques…
"What types of death are investigated by the Medical Examiner?
In general, those deaths suspected to be homicides, suicides, accidents or sudden
unexpected natural deaths are investigated by the Medical Examiner’s Office."
"Will an autopsy always be performed?
No. An autopsy is performed at the Medical Examiner’s discretion based on all of the
information available at the time of examination. An autopsy may not be required when the
death is known to be the result of natural causes, adequate medical history exists and
there are no signs of foul play. Autopsies are required when there is evidence or
reasonable suspicion of foul play."
-Ali
5:50 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
Are there differences in different areas?
Is "autopsy has to be performed" a city, county, state, or federal
mandate?
Fred,
There are no Federal mandates regarding autopsy. However, each state has its
own criteria but generally the criteria are for referral to a coroner who
then determines if an autopsy is warranted. So to give a concrete example in
CA any deaths that occur within 24 hours of a patient having surgery is
automatically a coroner's case. What this means is the hospital calls the
coroner and gives them the circumstances of the death. The coroner then can
choose to take the patient for further investigation or release the body to
go to a funeral home/family/etc. Having, unfortunately had family members
pass in a home not witnessed I can also tell you that there are no mandatory
autopsies.
-Ali
15 Oct
15 Oct
12:20 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
I regret not doing a section on the BBS in my book. I read
today(Thanksgiving in Canada and certainly giving thanks to Christensen)
that he and Suess created the CBBS in 1978. Christensen created the Xmodem
a year earlier. Both enabled computers to communicate with each other.
Christensen through humility, his openness to sharing, left us a legacy
that some in today's computer world should best emulate. May the computer
Gods forever care for Mr. Christensen..
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 8:10 PM Mike Katz via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Does anyone have any information about visitation or a
wake or funeral?
On 10/14/2024 6:22 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
(C-Modem, J-Modem, N-Modem... I was waiting for
them to run out of
letters).
Speaking of alphabetic order, . . .
35 years ago, I was interviewed for a puff piece in the comdex daily
"news".
Among other amateur stupid questions, I was asked "Do you want FAME?"
I replied, "Well, someday, I'd like to be recognized a little, and
maybe even listed along with Ward Christensen."
The very next year, the attendee roster of a conference I went to listed:
...
Christensen, Ward
Cisin, Fred
Cisler, Steve
...
That is much preferable to being listed with him in the subject line
of this thread
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
4:39 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 4:22 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Fred, you are an absolute gem.
Sellam
(C-Modem, J-Modem, N-Modem... I was waiting for
them to run out of
letters).
Speaking of alphabetic order, . . .
35 years ago, I was interviewed for a puff piece in the comdex daily
"news".
Among other amateur stupid questions, I was asked "Do you want FAME?"
I replied, "Well, someday, I'd like to be recognized a little, and
maybe even listed along with Ward Christensen."
The very next year, the attendee roster of a conference I went to listed:
...
Christensen, Ward
Cisin, Fred
Cisler, Steve
...
That is much preferable to being listed with him in the subject
line of this thread
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
12:03 a.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On 10/14/24 14:38, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
(Leech-Zmodem would tell the BBS side that there was a
CRC error on the
line on the last blocks and back up the position, then cancel the
transfer so the transfer was "unsuccessful" to the BBS software and
didn't hurt upload/download ratios. But it captured the complete file.)
Heck, last year I coded a version of Ymodem for an embedded application.
It's pretty easy when all you have is a serial connection.
--Chuck
4:23 p.m.
New subject: Ward Christensen (BBS, XMODEM) has died
On Monday, October 14th, 2024 at 17:03, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> (Leech-Zmodem would tell the BBS side that there
was a CRC error on the
> line on the last blocks and back up the position, then cancel the
> transfer so the transfer was "unsuccessful" to the BBS software and
> didn't hurt upload/download ratios. But it captured the complete file.)
So /that's/ what Leech-Zmodem was. I knew it was banned on just about every
board in my NPA, and asking about it (or getting caught using it) was a bannable
offense. Cute.
Heck, last year I coded a version of Ymodem for an
embedded application.
It's pretty easy when all you have is a serial connection.
I keep copies of the Xmodem and Kermit protocol specs in my wiki in case I
need them again. Working in airgapped environments means that sometimes you
don't have the right tool for the job.
The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
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