4 Aug
2023
4 Aug
'23
6:05 a.m.
I have a HiPlot plotter - it's DMP-29, but I'm fairly sure it takes the
same pens as the DMP-2 which I also have but in a million pieces - but
right now without pens.
I have been promised some but it may be many weeks...
I'm wondering if anyone has any old (or NOS?) pens for them? What I'm
after is the dimensions with a view to 3D printing new pens - or at least
pen holders so I can fit modern pens into. (There is no height restriction
on the pen bodys)
Can anyone help?
(I'm in the UK if anyone has any physical pens available - please
let me know)
Thanks,
Gordon
4 Aug
4 Aug
6:40 a.m.
On Aug 4, 2023, at 9:05 AM, Gordon Henderson via
cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have a HiPlot plotter - it's DMP-29, but I'm fairly sure it takes the same pens
as the DMP-2 which I also have but in a million pieces - but right now without pens.
I have been promised some but it may be many weeks...
I'm wondering if anyone has any old (or NOS?) pens for them? What I'm after is
the dimensions with a view to 3D printing new pens - or at least pen holders so I can fit
modern pens into. (There is no height restriction on the pen bodys)
Can anyone help?
Some searching turned up this:
https://www.buz-line.com/p-1766-hi-plotter-pens-k-style-for-dpp-houston-ins…
Expensive...
It's hard to be sure, but I wonder if a standard Rotring (a.k.a., Radiograph)
technical pen will work. Those were commonly used in plotters, for example I remember
using a Calcomp plotter with one of those. And those are obviously refillable, and
available in any number of sizes. Not to mention great drawing tools to have around -- I
wonder where mine is.
paul
8:23 a.m.
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From: Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 2:40 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: Paul Koning <paulkoning(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Houston Instruments HiPlot Plotters - Pens?
same pens
On Aug 4, 2023, at 9:05 AM, Gordon Henderson via
cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> I have a HiPlot plotter - it's DMP-29, but I'm fairly sure it takes the
as the DMP-2 which I also have but in a million pieces
- but right now
without
pens.
>
> I have been promised some but it may be many weeks...
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has any old (or NOS?) pens for them? What I'm
after
is the dimensions with a view to 3D printing new pens
- or at least pen
holders so
I can fit modern pens into. (There is no height
restriction on the pen
bodys)
Can anyone help?
Some searching turned up this:
https://www.buz-line.com/p-1766-hi-plotter-pens-k-style-for-dpp-houston-
instrument-similar-plotters.aspx
Expensive...
It's hard to be sure, but I wonder if a standard Rotring (a.k.a., technical pen will work. Those were commonly used in
plotters, for
example I
remember using a Calcomp plotter with one of those.
And those are
obviously
refillable, and available in any number of sizes. Not
to mention great
drawing
tools to have around -- I wonder where mine is.
paul
Looking at the documents for the DMP-29 those need an adaptor....
Dave
10:07 a.m.
On Aug 4, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Dave Wade G4UGM via
cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Nice, so that means such a pen would indeed be suitable.
Perhaps the adapter is merely a sleeve with matching threads for the plotter and the pen?
3D printing was mentioned, an adapter like that would be a simple exercise. (Ditto for
someone with a lathe.)
paul
...
Some searching turned up this:
https://www.buz-line.com/p-1766-hi-plotter-pens-k-style-for-dpp-houston-
instrument-similar-plotters.aspx
Expensive...
It's hard to be sure, but I wonder if a standard Rotring (a.k.a.,
Radiograph)
technical pen will work. Those were commonly
used in plotters, for
example I
remember using a Calcomp plotter with one of
those. And those are
obviously
refillable, and available in any number of sizes.
Not to mention great
drawing
tools to have around -- I wonder where mine is.
paul
Looking at the documents for the DMP-29 those need an adaptor....
Dave
10:16 a.m.
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
And it's not quite the right profile.
On Aug 4,
2023, at 9:05 AM, Gordon Henderson via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have a HiPlot plotter - it's DMP-29, but I'm fairly sure it takes the
same pens as the DMP-2 which I also have but in a million pieces - but
right now without pens.
I have been promised some but it may be many weeks...
I'm wondering if anyone has any old (or NOS?) pens for them? What I'm
after is the dimensions with a view to 3D printing new pens - or at
least pen holders so I can fit modern pens into. (There is no height
restriction on the pen bodys)
Can anyone help?
Some searching turned up this:
https://www.buz-line.com/p-1766-hi-plotter-pens-k-style-for-dpp-houston-ins…
Expensive... It's hard to be sure, but I wonder if a standard
Rotring (a.k.a.,
Radiograph) technical pen will work. Those were commonly used in
plotters, for example I remember using a Calcomp plotter with one of
those. And those are obviously refillable, and available in any number
of sizes. Not to mention great drawing tools to have around -- I wonder
where mine is.
They have a stepped profile which seems different from other plotters of
the era (HP, etc.) so no different from inkjet cartridges now, I guess.
I have discovered that they were bought out by Summagraphics and is it
possible to get pens from some outlet in Romania, but again very expensive
)-:
https://www.summa.ro/cutter-plotter-fiber-tip-pens-p-30.html
But I guess I only need one then I can get its size then I suspect turning
them on a lathe to take some standard rollerball type refill might be
easier than 3D printing them...
I'll keep looking,
Cheers,
Gordon
10:25 a.m.
On Aug 4, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Gordon Henderson via
cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
And it's not quite the right profile.
Some more searching turned up an old reference to adapters for various plotters for
Koh-I-Noor "Rapidoplot" plotter pens, which I believe are the same as
Rapidograph minus the body for holding the pen in the hand. And another
https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/99601.pdf
<https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/99601.pdf> shows adapters for Mars technical
pens, that's another brand I remember for the same kind of pens. It mentions part
number 75PL03H10 and a search for that turns up a Rakuten website (in French) offering
it.
paul
On Aug 4,
2023, at 9:05 AM, Gordon Henderson via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have a HiPlot plotter - it's DMP-29, but I'm fairly sure it takes the same pens
as the DMP-2 which I also have but in a million pieces - but right now without pens.
I have been promised some but it may be many weeks...
I'm wondering if anyone has any old (or NOS?) pens for them? What I'm after is
the dimensions with a view to 3D printing new pens - or at least pen holders so I can fit
modern pens into. (There is no height restriction on the pen bodys)
Can anyone help?
Some searching turned up this:
https://www.buz-line.com/p-1766-hi-plotter-pens-k-style-for-dpp-houston-ins…
Expensive... It's hard to be sure, but I wonder if a
standard Rotring (a.k.a., Radiograph) technical pen will work. Those were commonly used
in plotters, for example I remember using a Calcomp plotter with one of those. And those
are obviously refillable, and available in any number of sizes. Not to mention great
drawing tools to have around -- I wonder where mine is.
They have a stepped profile which seems different from other plotters of the era (HP,
etc.) so no different from inkjet cartridges now, I guess.
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