17 Oct
2022
17 Oct
'22
10:18 p.m.
Not saying that what the landlord did was ethically, morally or even
legally correct, just that you could have avoided the whole disaster; I'm
sure the community would have gladly chipped in to help, but I think your
attitude at the time was not very helpful..
You certainly had (and have) my sympathy, but at the same time I was pissed
because IMO as de facto 'curator' of a pretty special collection, much of
it no doubt donated, you had a certain responsibility to protect it.
As you say, let's not revive the whole sad tale; glad to hear you're back
on your feet.
mike
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:56 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Mike,
I'm trying not to extend this conversation, because I am not interested in
a pity-party, but this kind of comment is insulting. Of course I should
have paid the rent. And vy the way, as soon as I had it, I offered it, but
they refused the tender.
Regardless, when someone gets evicted, they and their stuff get thrown out
of the building. The landlord doesn't get to keep a million dollars of
property over $4,000 of missed rent. It is not lawful to liquidate any of
the tenant's property to offset the debt, unless they go through a long and
drawn out legal process.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:11 PM Mike Stein via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
it
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Shoulda paid the rent.
A sad tale indeed.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:11 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
and
The good news is that most of my best stuff was
either already with me
or I
> was able to get out, including my two Lisa 1's, my (straight) PDP-8,
> several other precious items. I long since
sold off most of this to
pay
to
> live, since at the same time they destroyed my collection they
destroyed
my
> business (not to mention my life's work).
>
> I've gone on to build a new collection out of the old, one that
is--like
my
recovering
original collection--unrivaled anywhere on the
planet. But this time
I've
erected castle walls around it, surrounded by a
moat filled with
alligators.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 11:58 AM Ryan de Laplante via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I didn’t know you were able to recover 20% of the collection before
being
> locked out again. I know losing any of it
is terrible, but I’m
guessing
> > you prioritized the very best pieces of the collection when
the
> 20%, such as your Lisa 1?
>
> I kept my collection in storage lockers for years. I kept moving to
> larger and larger lockers, then eventually two large lockers, because
my
> > collecting got out of control. Prices kept going up every year and
> was
> > a nightmare having to pay what I did just to store the collection.
> > Fortunately I was able to move to a house and relocated the
collection
> to
> > the basement. Not everything could come home with me, so I sold the
> > remaining lower priority pieces to the first person who could clear
the
>
locker over a weekend. I didn’t get much for it, but at least it
didn’t
go
and
to a recycler.
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 4:54 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Long story very short:
>
> Landlords evicted me from their warehouse where my collection was
stored
> > and wouldn't let me back in. Had to go to court. Regained access
> was
> > able to pull out 20% of the collection before they locked me out
again
for
> good. Then sold the rest to computer recyclers, who proceeded to
scatter
> > it to the wind.
> >
> > Sellam
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 1:43 AM Ali via cctalk <
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You had to ask......I was there 3000 years ago (or about 10 years
ago
in
> >> non Tolkien meme terms) and it wasn't pretty....
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Tom Hunter via cctalk <
> >> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: 10/17/22 1:31 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
> "General
> >> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc:
> Tom
> >> Hunter <ccth6600(a)gmail.com> Subject: [cctalk] Great Vintage
Computer
>>
Heist of 2012 Sellam Abraham referred to a "Great VintageComputer
Heist
of
>> 2012". What was that about? Who stole what and where andwhy?