24 Jan
2024
24 Jan
'24
6:27 p.m.
David Greelish's upcoming documentary has interviews of the people involved
with the original project, and the subject of Xerox and all that is pretty
well covered. I got a preview of the documentary, wait for it to come
out.....my Lisa is at 1hr13 mins in...This is an important documentary
because it is thoroughly researched and we can all stop copy and pasting
from wikipedia to act like we know what we're talking about.
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:04 PM Tony Jones via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 5:29 PM Chris Hanson via
cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Apple didn't "steal" anything
because
.....
I can't believe people still don't have a solid grasp of these things
after
40 years of both journalism and academia covering
them in rather
exhaustive
detail.
People likely don't have the solid grasp you feel they should because it's
probably not that important to them. Hence some of the myth's live on.
No-one mentioned "steal"ing in this thread AFAICT until now so I assume
you're talking in the general population sense rather than members of this
list. Also it's pretty subjective what "steal" means. Hertzfeld when
asked took a very literal view "literally no code was taken, I mean not a
single line of code". By that definition I doubt Microsoft took a line of
code from Apple either but it didn't stop Apple suing them for copyright
infringement :-)
I think Atkinson is on record as saying the Goldberg demo was just a
confirmation (for him) that a more graphical approach was the way forward.
I believe until then the Lisa project had been text based. I would not be
the slightest bit surprised to find out that Atkinson had already seen
demo's of Smalltalk 76 or 78. I get the impression PARC people smuggled
outsiders in late at night to see what they were working on.. It really
was all about getting Jobs on the same page.