On Sep 19, 2025, at 3:09 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Sep 2025, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
  just an overall simpler chip?).   I didn't
get the impression the Z80 was
 "expensive" - contemporary prices that I found placed the Z80 at something
 like $60 (or at least, under $100) and an 8080 at over $300?  (but it's
 hard to pinpoint individual price vs bulk order, and normalize across those
 critical years of 1974-1977). 
 Also prices were volatile; announced at one price, and then up or down on demand
  At Lockheed (then GD), when the F-16 was first
being developed, I'm told
 they used Commodore PET's to do initial aerodynamics modeling because it's
 BASIC had floating point support.  Obviously, that's not unique to the 6502 
 As did TRS80 ("Level 2 BASIC") where all numbers were single precision floating
point by default!
 also AppleSoft, and many/most? of the other Microsoft BASICs.
 --
 Grumpy Ol' Fred                    cisin(a)xenosoft.com 
The timeline for the story about the F-16 & PET according to Wikipedia:
20 Jan 1974: First flight of YF-16
Jan 1977: Commodore PET debuted at CES.
—Milo