31 Jul
2024
31 Jul
'24
11:32 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brain via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 6:14 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: Jim Brain <brain(a)jbrain.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: MS-DOS
On 7/30/2024 6:58 AM, cz via cctalk wrote:
> But Windows 2000 was a re-architected version of NT that people hated
> because of the GUI. So they dusted up the GUI with Windows 98's stuff
> and released it as XP. Rest was history....
The GUI in Windows/2000 is very similar to 9X. The issue with Windows/2000 that put people
off was applications compatibility. Because it does not sit on top of DOS like 95,98 and
ME.
So it broke many applications that worked in the DOS world.
From a corporate, enterprise view it was a game changer. The scalability of Activity
Directory as opposed to the NT SAM just opened the door to wide scale deployments.
The controls that Group Policy provided allowed you much more control over the end user
machine.
Proper roaming profiles and multi master replication..
Really it delivered something approaching the manageability of a Mainframe in a PC based
distributed network.....
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/active-directory-second/0596004664/ch0…
... for those on Windows 2000, initially XP offered very little, except for a
"TeleTubbie" user interface, so the start of the dumbing down of Windows...
.. in fact I would say Windows/2000 is probably my favourite OS ....
In the interest of facts, I don't think this is correct.
Windows NT 3.1 utilized the Windows 3.1 UI look and feel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_3.1
Windows NT 3.5 continued the 3.1 look and feel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_3.5
Windows NT 4.0 utilized the Windows 95 look and feel, as did 2000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_4.0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2000
Thus, I believe the UI hate evaporated before Windows XP.
I remember using 3.1, 4.0, and 2000. As I recall, I loved the stability of 3.1, but
the UI was old and outdated, especially when 95 came out.
4.0 offered the nicer UI, but the driver situation was still a problem, compared
to the better driver support for Windows 95/98. Windows 2000 was supposed
to unify the OS variants, but it didn't quite make it (though I think W2K moved
the graphics subsystem into the kernel for better performance), and Windows XP
was the first unified OS and the first with a 64 bit variant.
Jim
Dave
p.s. I once went to talk to some MS techies about an Exchange/IBM mail gateway we were
supporting, but which Microsoft had bought. I had things set up to run on a couple of
machines and had tested everything worked in an isolated environment. What I hadn't
noticed, in the pressure of making sure there were no glitches was that my XP desktop had
the normal background replaced with one the BBC provided for fans of the TeleTubbies
https://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/shows/teletubbies
got a big cheer from the Techies at Microsoft......
Dave