6 Jul
2023
6 Jul
'23
8:17 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 8:41 PM Mike Stein via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Conrac mainly made CRT monitor assemblies, so the
actual terminal was quite
possibly made by someone else.
It looks vaguely familiar; I'm surprised no one's recognized it.
Yea. Looks vaguely SABER like, but my only experience with them is airline
tickets an eon ago... but the screen looks all wrong...
Warner
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On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:13 PM Brad H via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Thanks Rod!
I discovered an immediate problem I hadn't caught before.. two of the
trimmer resistors had actually been broken right off two of their legs..
so
that may account for strange/missing voltages.
They are a CONRAC part
928237. The CRT is CONRAC too, but I still don't think this is a CONRAC
terminal. Anyway, I only found one source for the exact resistor, an
aerospace company, and they want $80 per unit (I think they just want me
to
go away).
So far in testing I haven't found any shorts. My main worry is the PSU
sending incorrect voltages to wrong place. In addition to the broken
resistors I also discovered some broken solder joints on the PSU PCB..
those at least are repaired. I'm trying to figure out the resistance the
two resistors were set to so I can put a replacement in with same,
hopefully that gets me close to what should be there.
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Smallwood via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 8:48 AM
To: Douglas Taylor via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52(a)btinternet.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 1974 No Name Terminal
I worked on VDU's as an engineer in the UK before joining DEC to sell
volume VT100's in 1975
There's a mention of block on one of the cards so a block mode terminal.
That means enter data and press a key to send the lot.
The card cage could mean its emulating something.
I'd test as many capacitors as possible. PSU first and replace as
required.
Run PSU and check voltages.
Check each board for power rail to ground shorts.
If ok give each board +5v on its own and see if the TTL is alive.
If theres a clock gen start there (look for a crystal can)
Loads of fans might indicate an industrial environment
At this age some TTL will have failed plus capacitors.
Rod Smallwood
On 05/07/2023 16:28, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote:
At first glance it reminded me of the Hazeltine
1000, I owned one in
the early 1980's. Brutally simple terminals, I remember getting a ROM
from Jameco which allowed the terminal to display lowercase letters.
Pure luxury.
Doug
On 7/4/2023 6:57 PM, Brad H via cctalk wrote:
Hi there - not sure how much overlap there is
with vcfed's forum, but
thought I would reach out here in case. I have a terminal from 1974
(based on date codes I've found on the motherboard). I'm unable to
determine manufacturer and that would be handy for diagnostic
purposes. The terminal casing is made out of foam, and although there
are some serial numbers stamped around, nothing really lines up. The
fans inside have zero dust or dirt, so I'm thinking this may not have
seen much use, or may be a prototype or pilot for something. It does
have RS232 capability. Interestingly the screen is set down below the
keyboard so that only half of it is visible.
My main issue right now is the PSU - I am trying to determine if I'm
safe to attempt powering up the board (the PSU so far seems to be ok,
although some voltages on a couple of pins are mysterious).
Anyway, on the extremely off chance anyone has ever seen one of these
or something like it.. any tips would be appreciated. If I can find a
manual I'll feel a lot safer about turning it on.
Some pics here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-2uEFbi3OKBYr06y6yHnygDiLMtw2
Qkj?usp
=sharing
Brad
brad(a)techtimetraveller.com