28 Nov
2025
28 Nov
'25
3:11 a.m.
HP was running Pa/risc into the 2017's for code analysis, I have a
goodwill 700. They sent me all the software, 12 CD's
I don't think anybody will get excited about VMS running on hobby gear.
Call HP, I think they will get a laugh.
Worked at HP for a couple years. Felt like old Tektronix.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 12:25 AM Doug Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I too have watched this thread.
The choices if you are lucky enough to have the hardware, are
(1) Run the software - enjoy it - understand that its unlikely that the
ghost of DEC (Whatever that is) will pay any attention.
(2) Obey DECs commercial wishes and drill a 1/2"hole through the silicon in
each individual board on the backplane, and physically mail them one at a
time to the haters in this group to demonstrate that you have obeyed the
licencing laws explicitly.
Easy :-)
.
Kindest regards,
Doug Jackson
em: doug(a)doughq.com
ph: 0414 986878
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 at 18:38, Rod Smallwood via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 28/11/2025 04:10, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
license to run it on that system before DEC/Compaq/HP stopped selling
such
On Nov 27, 2025, at 9:45 AM, Peter Ekstrom via
cctalk<
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Ok, so there basically isn't a truly
legit and ethical way to run it
as a
hobbyist.
There is not a legal way to run it unless you acquired a perpetual
licenses.
it
Whether it is *moral* or *ethical* to run it is independent of whether
it is *legal* to run it, and a poor analogy such as one likening running
to stealing a car will not help much in making up
your own mind about
such
things.
— Chris
I worked for DEC for 10 years. They were the best
company I ever worked
for or with
They were altruistic, kind and generous. They
loaned out hardware and
software all the time.
I am English and to an extent therefore somewhat can claim to have
an indpendant view.
Here I will make a non-detrimental comment.
The US is dollar driven and uses its laws for business advantage
when it can.
The most famous British judge Lord Denning always said.
"This is not a court of law but a place of justice, fairness and
truth"
DEC has (sadly) been gone for 25 years.
So running old VMS versions on old VAX systems for non-profit
personal interest should be fair use.
Rod Smallwood