By the time frame mentioned in the article (1981) there were many
commercially available applications. There was also hardware (e.g. from
DEC, DG, HP) that was of a scale where it would be dedicated to one
application. At that time I worked for a company that developed a
database system. I can think of a few trips I made to help customers
bring up a new data center dedicated to running our product.
On 4/27/24 14:12, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
IMHO, having started programming in 1977, the thing
that drove sales was the promise of reduced costs just by having a computer that could be
programmed to do accounting type work that would eliminate jobs and thus costs. Mainframes
were very expensive back then so there weren’t many companies that developed software just
to be marketed to other companies. A lot if what was sold had been developed by a company
for internal use. Tgen someone got the idea that they could recoup some development costs
by selling the software. A lot of payroll systems got started like that. Payroll was a
logical starting point because it was a common function within companies.
I would say that software never drove hardware sales. You had hardware already and you
might try to find software that ran on it or your team programmed it in house. I’ve never
been to a company that found software then bought the hardware that it ran on. There would
be too much due diligence needed to make that happen.
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> On Apr 27, 2024, at 10:41, Tarek Hoteit <tarek(a)infocom.ai> wrote:
>
> Hi. Meant complete software application systems, but, of course, it is eventually
powered by language compilers
>
> Regards,
> Tarek Hoteit
> AI Consultant, PhD
> +1 360-838-3675
>
>
>> On Apr 27, 2024, at 10:39, Wayne S <wayne.sudol(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> When you say “software drove hardware sales” do you mean complete software
application systems or do you mean compilers available for the hardware so the software
teams had variety in what they could program?
>> Up to the ‘90’s, companies had big, expensive hardware and little to no canned
software applications so companies also had relatively cheaper software developers to make
custom programs.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Apr 27, 2024, at 10:23, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I came across this paragraph from the July 1981 Popular Science magazine
edition in the article titled “Compute power - pro models at almost home-unit prices.”
>>>
>>> “ ‘Personal-computer buffs may buy a machine, bring it home, and then spend
the rest of their time looking for things it can do’, said …. ‘In business, it’s the other
way around. Here you know the job, you have to find a machine that will do it. More
precisely, you have to find software that will do the job. Finding a computer to use the
software you’ve selected becomes secondary.”.
>>>
>>> Do you guys* think that software drove hardware sales rather than the other
way around for businesses in the early days? I recall that computer hardware salespeople
would be knocking on businesses office doors rather than software salesmen. Just seeking
your opinion now that we are far ahead from 1981.
>>>
>>> (*I do wish we have female gender engaged in the classic computing
discussions threads as well. Maybe there is.)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tarek Hoteit
>>> AI Consultant, PhD
>>> +1 360-838-3675
>>>