Fred,
There was a project someone did years ago where you can read GCR disks in
an unmodified PC drive by first inserting a PC formatted disk to get synced
and then swapping in a GCR encoded disk, then it can actually read the raw
pulses and they get decoded in software. I forget the website where the
project can be found but a web search will hopefully turn it up.
Sellam
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:23 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
> Also GCR,
not MFM. NOT readable with a PC FDC.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2022, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Please expand "GCR".
Sure, . . . (GROSSLY OVER-SIMPLIFIED, such as "pulse" instead of flux
transition)
FM is "frequency modulated". Well, it is actually a regular clock pulse,
with data bit pulse, or no pulse, between each of the clock pulses.
There is, of course, a limit to how densely packed that can be on a track.
A signal with all zero bits of the data, and a signal with all one bits of
the data therefore are two different frequencies.
MFM is "Modified Frequency Modulated". Clock pulses really aren't
necessary when they fall between two consecutive data pulses. If we leave
those out, we end up with a much less dense pattern of pulses.
(Over-simplified: MFM is FM without any clock pulses deemed "unnecessary")
We can get away with a higher data transmission rate, even TWICE, and
still not be much too overcrowded on the track. Therefore, twice as much
data per track. The marketing people called that "DOUBLE DENSITY", and
immediately started calling FM, "SINGLE DENSITY", although some engineers
would argue that FM was "half density" and MFM would be "about single
density". If you do historical research, you will find the term "double
density" was used in the literature BEFORE the term "single density" was
(Just like the phrase "WORLD WAR TWO" was used in newspapers before
"WORLD
WAR I" was ever applied to the "great war")
But, going back to FM, . . .
if you look at all of the patterns of pulses, you'll see that not ALL of
them are dense. In fact, of the 256 possible patterns for an 8 bit byte,
you can find 32, or even 64, that are low enough density that they could
be compressed. We can use 5 or 6 bits to represent those patterns. But,
having only 5 or 6 bits usable to only use the
specific patterns that were low enough density means that we can't use 8
bit bytes directly. but, we COULD recombine, to store 5 8 bit bytes as 8
5 bit patterns, or 3 bytes as 4 6 bit patterns. THAT produced low enough
"density" of the signal that by upping the data transfer rate, about one
and a half times as much data scould be stored on a track, admittedly with
some additional processing overhead. Thus, the Apple2 got about 140K on a
disk, when the TRS80 got about under 100K (89,600). (Both were originally
35 track, using Shugart SA400 and SA390 drives)
"Beneath Apple DOS" has a decent description)
The FDC of PC can only directly handle WD/IBM sector and track structure,
so reading GCR, such as Apple (prior to 1.4M) Victor/Sirius, Commodore,
etc. calls for different hardware.
http://www.xenosoft.com/fmts.html has a list of a few of the different
machines that use formats that CAN be done using the PC FDC. They do
still have different file systems, with various sector sizes, and
directory structures.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com