16 May
2024
16 May
'24
3:08 p.m.
We were a beta test site for NOS/VE and the hardware (Cyber 180?). CDC
sent the machine and a software support engineer to help us do something
with it. My one recollection was that the command language was horribly
awkward, but I didn't spend much time on the system.
I know there are some manuals for NOS/VE on bitsavers, but I wonder if
any of the software still exists?
Gary
On 5/15/24 23:00, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
I came to it all a bit later. I do recall the CDC
salesthing saying
something like "oh, you guys have some Unix around here? Have we got
something for you!". And the systems guys brought up NOS/VE on the last
CDC machines we ever bought.
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 10:43 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 5/15/24 18:47, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Please...I'm trying very hard not to remember them (or NOS...worse,
> NOS/VE).
>
> I left CDC at around the time that SCOPE 3.4 was being renamed NOS BE
> and KRONOS was becoming NOS. I remember attending a design meeting for
> the pager in what was to become NOS/VE. I asked the presenter if he'd
> conferred with any of the virtual memory pager talent that CDC had
> in-house. Blank stare. I informed him that the STAR-100 people had
> lived in that particular hell since about 1969--and that demand paging
> was not the way to run a shop. STAR had long-since switched to a
> working set algorithm.
>
> Even that wasn't enough. If one selected a large (65 KW) page size and
> set up certain vector instructions so that addresses crossed page
> boundaries, it was impossible to get the required pages into memory all
> at once.
>
> The system just sat there and thrashed....
>
> --Chuck
>
>