29 Aug
2024
29 Aug
'24
6:21 p.m.
Carnegie (and Gates) were only figuratively "buying their way into
heaven". I don't think that either did it for religious reasons.
Although most would assume that it is a religious issue, that was not my
intent. The specific example that I gave is non-religious.
"I have learned that no good can ever come from starting a discussion of
politics, religion, or the Great Pumpkin." - Linus
We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs.
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Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Mike Katz wrote:
> And then there's the story in the bible about Jesus throwing the people
> selling indulgences (and other things) out of the temple?😮
>
> That kind of thing has been going on for thousands of years. It predates
> Catholicism but became a part of the Catholic Church in the 11th and 12
> centuries.
>
> This is not intended to start a theological discussion in any way shape or
> form. I was just mentioning that buying your salvation has been a part of
> mankind for a long time.
>
> On 8/29/2024 7:01 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>>>>> Hasn't he promised to give his money away...
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>> He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of
>>>> money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds
with a
>>>> large part of the money. Look at the Carnegie libraries.
>>>
>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Paul Koning wrote:
>>> In an earlier century, those schemes were called "indulgences" and
were
>>> one of the main causes of the Reformation.
>>
>> Martin Luther's post on the church door was, of course, completely
>> inadequate to put an end to indulgences.
>>
>> And there are other sorts of them still being created. "Solar Renewable
>> Energy Certificates" seem like an indulgence market.
>>
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>> Grumpy Ol' Fred            cisin(a)xenosoft.com