26 May
2024
26 May
'24
3:59 a.m.
On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 07:50, ben via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I think the most important thing for a Personal Computer,
is the average Joe, can afford and use it.
Yes, agreed.
The second thing is
to have ample memory and IO to run useful programs.
Now, you see, I'd agree with that but then you immediately go and blow
it out of the water with this:
The basic Apple
I,II does not count as many others as it had BASIC in ROM and tape IO.
Hang on. So what?
My first computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum. 48kB RAM, tape cassette
storage, floating-point BASIC with graphics commands in ROM. It was an
ample amount of RAM, it could run useful programs, and I both bought
hundreds of them and wrote my own.
What kind of subjective elitist BS is this?!
My Spectrum outspecced many early CP/M machines and they sold in the
hundreds of thousands to millions (worldwide, amalgamating all brands)
and spawned a multi-TRILLION-dollar industry, but in the opinion of
the mighty Mr I-don't-need-a-capital-letter-or-a-surname ben, they
don't count?
Get in the sea.
Utter tosh. You dismiss an entire decade's worth of hardware that
created careers, shaped the economies of nations, and arguably caused
the collapse of communism in Europe because you don't approve?
No. Not for a second, not to be even entertained for amusement for an
instant, no.
The third thing is a real OS. Nobody has one, as a
personal computer.
Tell me you never used DOS in anger, never saw CCP/M and CDOS and QNX
and DESQview, or Xenix, or really knew the PC platform at all, without
telling me. Utter bilgewater. Apparently you never even saw Borland
Sidekick.
Ill-informed nonsense.
CP/M and MSDOS does not handle IRQ's.
Wrong.
Unix for the PDP-11 is real
operating system but not personal as it requires a admin,and a swapping
media.
Irrelevant.
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