On Fri, 10 May 2024 12:00:07 -0500
cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote:
> The UCSD shell was atrocious. The compiler was slow. The editor was
> terrible. The entire experience was reminiscent of working on a dumb
> terminal connected to a mainframe, when it could've taken advantage of
> the features of the personal computer.
>
> I hated it.
>
> I hate it.
I've never had the pleasure, but a glance over the documentation is...
enlightening. God only knows why so many people over the decades have
gravitated to the "pick the thing you want to do from this list of the
things which can be done" school of UI design...
After 'lunch with Draper', you almost immediately reference a 'CRUNCH'
utility? Seems like more than coincidence to me, but I'm big on
conspiracy theories.
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At NCC - Anaheim, I bought John Draper lunch (I never exercised with him) for a
quick consultation about P-system directory structure. I added some P-system
formats into XenoCopy a week later.
I have a cable with two heads on one end and a rj45 phone connector on the
other end. On the two-headed side is a 25-pin ( serial female RS232 ?) and
9-pin (serial female RS232 ?)
The 25 pin adapter has a GEM95 sticker on it.
What was this cable used for?
BIll
> Pascal never really made it on the microcomputer platform did it?
> I can be convinced otherwise but it seems like microcomputing Pascal
> was more of a staging environment for then upload into a production
> mainframe/mini
Pascal was the language of choice over at Apple in the original MacOS
days, and as Mike has noted Turbo Pascal was popular enough on the PC;
it was more, I think, that the UCSD-style language-environment-as-OS
paradigm never caught on in the microcomputer world. Early consumer
micros of course had ROM BASIC, but once you got past that to a
reasonably full-featured operating system, there was no compelling
reason for it to be tightly coupled to one particular language/compiler
when it could just as easily treat compilers as Yet Another Program and
support arbitrarily many.
OK
This seems to be the one that the list choked on
(possibly due to special quote characters?
On Thu, May 9, 2024, 2:07 AM david barto via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
> At Ken Bowles retirement from UCSD (Ken was the lead of the UCSD Pascal
> Project) he related a story that IBM came to UCSD after being "rejected"
> by DR to see if the Regents of the University would license UCSD Pascal (the
> OS and the language) to IBM for release on the new hardware IBM was
> developing. The UC Regents said "no"
> He was quite sad that history took the very different course.
well, it wasn't quite a "rejected by DR". But, the culture clash certainly did
strengthen IBM's desire for CP/M alternatives. And, they DID cut a deal with
Softech/UCSD-Regents to have UCSD P-system as one of the original operating
systems for the 5150.
The "very different course" of the market going with CP/M and MS-DOS, rather
than P-System, was due to many factors.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
Next they'll want silver oxygen free plated plumbing and sewage pipes in their homes. Silver plated toilet seats?
Walls insulated with Palladium coated corn silk threads?
Seems the subject has really gone astray?.... Lions, Tigers and Bears oh my! 😲)
Don Resor
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Subject: [cctalk] Re: FWIW CD & DVD demagnitizitation [was: Double Density 3.5" Floppy Disks]
Why stop there? A truly dedicated audiophile would run new pure silver electrical wire through the walls directly to the breaker box.
Then you gotta upgrade to the breaker box that was disinfected from transient spirits through an exorcism, and then special 24K solid gold-contact breakers in inert nylon housings.
Sellam
