Hi,
Has anyone else noticed that the list server is screwing up digest emails,
starting with Volume #115?
Prior to #115, each message would start with:
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 18:49:31 +0000 (WET)
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As of 115, that demarcation has disappeared.
Here's an example from #119, message #6:
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From: Devin D <lyokoboy0(a)gmail.com>
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 12:48:23 -0500
Subject: [cctalk] Guidance on repairing Dec PDP 11 System
Greetings,
Note that that's *NOT* a "forwarded" message (in the normal CCTALK digest
sense), but the start of a new message.
Since most people are *EXTREMELY BAD* at trimming the messages they are
replying to, the lack of proper message demarcation makes reading the
digest quite difficult.
Sadly, the listserver doesn't post the version number of the its code with
each digest (well, as far as I could see), so I can't definitively tie this
to a version change.
Can this be reverted/fixed, please?
thanks,
Stan
Dear all,
I am still trying to declutter enough to empty the storage container,
and have room to move around in my basement. I have decided not to
renew the lease on the storage container on 10 January, so stuff needs
to go by then.
The following stuff will go in the skip if no one comes and collects it
by early January:
D-Scan video printer
DECwriter 2 printing terminal
A device for cleaning DEC RK05 platters, poor condition, mechanicals
corroded, no cleaning pads or fluid - probably display only.
The following stuff will probably also go in the skip:
Teletype 43 (the dot-matrix Teletype - this is rare but boring; probably
rare because boring)
A wide range of other small dot-matrix printers - let me know if you are
interested in anything of that nature, and I'll try and make a list.
The following are available free to anyone prepared to collect:
IBM System/23 Datamaster - complete with (yet another!) dot matrix
printer. I have some software for this as well.
ACT Sirius 1. A fairly complete system including some software
(Wordstar and some accounting packages). I may need help disentangling
Sirius stuff from Apricot stuff, since the same ACT logo often appears
on both.
The following are available, but I'd like to be offered a non-negative
amount of money:
Apple II systems. Four system units (I think they are two //e, one ][
plus and one ][ Europlus, but I can check. Some disk drives. I should
be able to find a monitor or two. Quite a lot of manyals, plug-in
cards, probably some software disks - but I may need help sorting out
Apple II disks from others. Some of the plug-in cards are prototyping
cards, and I think one has been set up to talk to some analogue gaming
paddles.
Research Machines 380Z. (One of the people who collected other stuff
from me has expressed an interest in this, and his prior interest will
be taken into account in considering offers.) I have a system box (I
haven't yet looked inside) with diskette drives on the front; I also
have a GIPB (IEEE-488) card and a rather nice I/O prototyping card - it
is pre-populated with three PIO chips and one other large chip, all in
wire-wrappable sockets, and lots of space for a homebrew interface.
A Victor V86P laptop. I know nothing about this machine, but it has the
Sirius logo on it (I think the Sirius 1 was sold under the Victor brand
in some places, so this figures)
As before, please reply to declutter(a)axeside.co.uk, whether or not you
reply here. If I get interest in some of the machines, I'm happy to
look more closely at them and try to answer queries. In general, I'd
prefer people to come and collect stuff, but for the smaller items (e.g.
the Victor laptop) I'd be happy to discuss shipping. Collecting stuff
yourself is a more reliable way of getting the parts you need (e.g.
cables), and of finding other stuff that I don't mind getting rid of.
As regards the systems for which I want money, I do not guarantee to
accept the highest offer; as I said, I have already had interest in the
380Z and this will be taken into account.
Finally, I am trying to contact Anthony Sibley. We started making
arrangements for him to collect some stuff, and then I stopped getting
replies to my e-mails. Either he is not receiving them or I am not
receiving his replies. Please get in touch, or your TU16 will go
elsewhere, maybe even in the skip.
Philip.
I have two Power General FLU4-150 power supplies, apparently set up to
be used in some kind of a server. They have an extra board that
includes some Schottky diodes, presumably so they can be used in
parallel without a failing one damaging a working one.
I don't know the precise model numbers, but they provide +/- 5v and +/-
12v.
One (or maybe both) would fit in a Postal Service medium flat-rate box.
Yours for the price of a PDF shipping label.
I also have five power supplies that appear to have come from Dell
servers. I don't know their specs. They have a weird connector that
actually has a Molex number (that I have forgotten).
Let me know if you might want any of the Dell power supplies and I'll
work out which box would be needed for shipping.
If you can't use them for their originally-intended purposes, maybe you
can convert them to lab-bench supplies.
Van Snyder
Sorry to spam the list, but I find myself in need of some holiday cash (or
positive PayPal balance, anyway) so I am offering a REPLICA Cromemco Cyclops
Camera for sale. This is ONLY THE CAMERA. You will need to have your own
Cyclops interface board set or build an XYZ scope interface as in the
manual:
https://www.autometer.de/unix4fun/z80pack/ftp/cromemco/Cromemco%2088%20ACC%2
0Manual.pdf
This will be the camera I demonstrated at 2018 VCF East. All three circuit
boards are clearly labeled REPLICA in the copper layer. Details of the
construction and other photographs are on my web page:
http://wsudbrink.dyndns.org:8080/cyclops/index.html#Cromemco
I would much rather sell it here to someone who clearly understands what
they are getting, rather than dealing with ebay. I will also include a pair
of REPLICA side panels (made from measurements of an original) that I had
made last year. I would be happy to zoom with the buyer and demonstrate the
camera in operation.
Email me directly if interested.
Thanks,
Bill S.
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Hello,
I have looked at vintage UK computers on Facebook Marketplace and the
like. The people usually will not post, especially to me in the USA. They
are normally looking for local collection. Anyone in the UK want to be a
vintage computer swap friend? Looking to get some systems from there and
could help get systems from here in return. I am in the USA.
Private message if interested!
- Ethan
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Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bishop via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 03 December 2022 18:07
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts (cctalk(a)classiccmp.org) <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: Martin Bishop <mjd.bishop(a)emeritus-solutions.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Peripherals available in Dorset, England : Free to a Good Home
Folks
The following job lots are available as described but untested, stored in the attic / house since last use : UMMV
Lot A : Matsui B&W 13" 1420T SIL UHF & Scart 230V (may be useful as a retro monitor esp as exhibit) [operable when last in service ~?]
Lot B : Samsung CLP-350 A4 Color Laser Enet 230V
- contains consumables, level unknown
- very streaky when last used
+ CLP-R350A Imaging Unit
+ CLP-W350A Waste Bin
+ CLP-C350A Cyan toner
+ CLP-Y350A Yellow toner
+ CLP-M350A Magenta toner
[consumables BNIB]
[operable but streaky when last in service ~2015]
Lot C : Samsung CLP680 A4 Color Laser Enet 230V
- contains consumables, level unknown
- motion fault when last used "A1-4112"
+ CLT-K506L Black toner
[consumable BNIB]
[defective "A1-4112" when last in service ~2022]
While these are on the margins of classic, I'm happy to give the community first refusal on a free to a good home basis.
Collection needs to be no later than next Thursday 8 December. If firm collection arrangements have not been made by CoP Sunday they will be offered on Gumtree ... If they are still here after Thursday, they may go wheee. Apologies for the short notice.
Replies to ftagh(a)janefield.net will be regarded as offers. Collection offers will be considered in the round, but the early bird is likely to have an advantage, accepted offers will be honoured until the agreed collection time passes, thereafter the acceptance will lapse and they will be back in play.
Martin
Folks
The following job lots are available as described but untested, stored in the attic / house since last use : UMMV
Lot A : Matsui B&W 13" 1420T SIL UHF & Scart 230V
(may be useful as a retro monitor esp as exhibit)
[operable when last in service ~?]
Lot B : Samsung CLP-350 A4 Color Laser Enet 230V
- contains consumables, level unknown
- very streaky when last used
+ CLP-R350A Imaging Unit
+ CLP-W350A Waste Bin
+ CLP-C350A Cyan toner
+ CLP-Y350A Yellow toner
+ CLP-M350A Magenta toner
[consumables BNIB]
[operable but streaky when last in service ~2015]
Lot C : Samsung CLP680 A4 Color Laser Enet 230V
- contains consumables, level unknown
- motion fault when last used "A1-4112"
+ CLT-K506L Black toner
[consumable BNIB]
[defective "A1-4112" when last in service ~2022]
While these are on the margins of classic, I'm happy to give the community first refusal on a free to a good home basis.
Collection needs to be no later than next Thursday 8 December. If firm collection arrangements have not been made by CoP Sunday they will be offered on Gumtree ... If they are still here after Thursday, they may go wheee. Apologies for the short notice.
Replies to ftagh(a)janefield.org will be regarded as offers. Collection offers will be considered in the round, but the early bird is likely to have an advantage, accepted offers will be honoured until the agreed collection time passes, thereafter the acceptance will lapse and they will be back in play.
Martin
As the subject (and wikipedia) say:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Brooks
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Tomasz Rola
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Found an ad from 1984 - poor resolution but gives you an idea of what the strap looked like. -W
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NG7kCK4qHyDgNKxb6
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:25:59 +0100
From: Tony Duell <ard.p850ug1(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Fwd: Philips P2000C carrying strap
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Does anyone have a Philips P2000C CP/M luggable with the carrying strap?
I will be restoring such a machine in the near-ish future and mine is lacking the strap. Clear photos of the end fittings that slot into the machine, the dimensions of them, etc would be a great help in making something up.
-tony
Greetings,
Been a while since i have posted here. I have several PDP11 systems and
peripherals. I picked the original lot of a system 34 and related tech
in Miami FL a couple years back, and have since found several more pdp
11/34 machines, and a pdp 11/05, 11/85, and others.
It has been a goal to get the original PDP 11/34 system up and running,
however my job schedule kept getting in the way of my repair efforts,
making it easy to loose track of where i was at with the repair
progress. Thankfully i no longer work in a datacenter in a 10 hour
overnight shift, so it should be much easier to devote my time to this
repair.
I am looking for advice to get the 11/34 system up and running. I have
started to put together a site to document my progress, to stay on track
with the repair effort. The system has 2 rl02 drives, and an attached 9
track tape drive. I had worked to repair a power supply issue at first,
there was a problem with the main transformer, as well as one of the
smaller voltage "bricks". Thankfully i have many systems and i was just
able to swap in the needed working parts.
So this is about as far as I got, I had a minimal config of the 11/34
machine running, with not much more than the cpu, and a serial card to
talk to attached terminal. Power supply works, and i was able to toggle
in programs from the front panel to output characters to the attached
terminal.
I believe the next logical step was to try and attach the rl02
controllers, and see if the disk packs still have working installs of
RSX installed. I am not sure how to proceed with this though.
I have mainly been following the advice of Paul Anderson, who has been a
godsend in regard to advice and guidance with getting these old systems
fixed up. I hope that if i keep a log of the repair effort on my site,
it will allow me to pick up where i leave off with the repair much more
easily.
So that is the present condition of the machine. Good power supply, can
toggle in simple programs to print to the attached terminal. Any advice
on how to proceed is much appreciated. I Need to get an itemized list
of what hardware and cards i have on hand, and post that here so its
understood what i have.
Thanks,
Devin D.
