>Message: 26
>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 18:13:17 -0500
>From: Nigel Johnson Ham <g4ajq1(a)gmail.com>
>Subject: [cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now
>
>On 2025-02-01 18:11, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> One mystery to me was why did the industry stick with the EIA-232 levels
>> for terminals and whatnot long after differential EIA-422 was
>> introduced. Higher-speed, better noise immunity, single-ended power
>> supply... Seems that the popular places were Appletalk and ST506 data
>> lines. But not on DTE/DCE. If you were using full-voltage (±15-±25)
>> at high speeds (>500Kbps), the slew rates were ridiculous.
>>
>> Inertia? My old 80286 motherboard had junper-selectable 232 or 422.
>>
>> Still have a couple of tubes of 422 drivers/receivers.
>>
>> --Chuck
>>
>DEC had RS422 available on their DLJ11J four-port interface, but I never
>saw it used in the field.
>
The Otrona Attache has two serial ports, DA-15 female, that are jumper selectable between RS-232C, RS-422 or RS-423.
Bob
In the early 70s my employer used stand alone data entry tape units in our remote locations. We started with NCR units but then switched to Tally. In the late afternoon the data would be transmitted to the home office in Chicago for processing. Also using NCR/Tally units. We used Racal-Milgo modems. These things were about the size of a large home stereo receiver. We started at 2400 baud. The units could do 3600 or 4800 (I don’t remember which) if a circuit board strap was moved.
We had locations in many cities/towns all the way out to Montana. It was decided that we needed to have the ability to switch between 2400 and the faster speed when possible. We did not want to have the locals power off the modem, open it up, remove a card and move the strap. So I got volunteered to come up with a plan.
I found a place in the modem where I could mount a switch. Luckily the modem had a sliding panel on the front so the locals would not have to open the box top. Went to our fleet garage where they had the tools I needed. I made a bunch of aluminum brackets for a tiny toggle switch. Added wires to the switch.
It was also decided that we could not trust the locals to do the switch install. So part of the plan included me going to all the locations and doing the install. I did not have a car at the time so I got a fleet car. Headed south to Kentucky then turned west. Don’t remember all the states I hit but I believe the last place I hit on the way home was Rockford. I remember being on a back road in Montana and I took a picture of my speedometer. I was doing 65. This was when there was a countrywide speed limit of 55. I can’t be limited by the Man. :)
Back at the home office we had 6 NCR/Tally machines and only 4 modems. I built a plug panel box that had everything wired to it and used telephone jack plugs to connect the Tally’s to an available modem. The box also had switches for the modem speed.
I now forget how long the whole process took. Put my DeVry AAS degree to good use. :)