Bay Area: IBM 4341 and HP3000

Guy Sotomayor ggs at
Sat Jan 10 19:53:31 CST 2015

The 4341 wasn't quite as bad as: but the end result I 
think was worse.

TTFN - Guy

On 1/10/15 5:27 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
> I had planned to.  Unfortunately the condition of everything was even 
> worse than what Lyle had described.
> In addition to the water damage (chassis rusted on the CPU and at 
> least one control unit), it was hard to see what all was there because 
> of all of the junk (tables, A/C condensers, random other *heavy* junk) 
> all piled *on top* of the CPU, terminals (a heavy table was being 
> supported by a number of HP terminals...when I tried to move the table 
> to get a better view of stuff you could hear things "crunch").  I did 
> get enough stuff out of the way to at least glance at the 4341.  It 
> was really sad.  3 major cables had been cut.  It looked like a side 
> panel had been removed and what ever was plugged into it was not 
> visible (may have been there but with out a major mining operation it 
> was hard to tell).  After about 20 minutes I thanked him and left.
> He had said that everything was operational before being put into 
> storage.  It looks like they just grabbed, cut and generally abused 
> everything even before it went into storage before receiving the 
> additional indignity of significant water damage.
> It's basically just scrap at this point.  Very sad.
> TTFN - Guy
> On 1/9/15 8:19 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
>> Take pictures!
>> -- 
>> Will
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at> 
>> wrote:
>>> I'm the one who's coming out tomorrow. ;-)  So it won't be going for 
>>> scrap.
>>> TTFN - Guy
>>> On 1/9/15 5:25 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
>>>> On 1/9/2015 10:43 AM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote:
>>>>> I believe these are the same ones advertised a year or so ago.
>>>>> Lyle and I went to see them and found a storage building piled
>>>>> to the ceiling with stuff. It was impossible to see what was actually
>>>>> there, though what could be seen had heavy water damage and
>>>>> looked to be in bad shape. At the time he was asking $5000 for
>>>>> it all so we just walked away. Might be a lot cheaper now.
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> On Friday, January 9, 2015 10:27 AM, Jason T <silent700 at> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Not mine, not near me, not known to me:
>>>> I talked to the owner for quite a while tonight and got some 
>>>> information.
>>>> He is very interested  in moving it and is sending photos. He said 
>>>> someone
>>>> is coming to take a look at it  tomorrow in Freemont.  I will post the
>>>> photos he sends me tonight.
>>>> I hope someone buys it for other than gold.  I am not set up to 
>>>> address
>>>> this sort of a deal myself, and am passing the info along to who 
>>>> may be able
>>>> to.
>>>> I told him about cctalk and ibm vintage lists, so if you are on 
>>>> that, that
>>>> is the secret handshake as far as what I told him, vs. a scrap dealer.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jim

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