Bay Area: IBM 4341 and HP3000

Guy Sotomayor ggs at
Sat Jan 10 19:27:37 CST 2015

I had planned to.  Unfortunately the condition of everything was even 
worse than what Lyle had described.

In addition to the water damage (chassis rusted on the CPU and at least 
one control unit), it was hard to see what all was there because of all 
of the junk (tables, A/C condensers, random other *heavy* junk) all 
piled *on top* of the CPU, terminals (a heavy table was being supported 
by a number of HP terminals...when I tried to move the table to get a 
better view of stuff you could hear things "crunch").  I did get enough 
stuff out of the way to at least glance at the 4341.  It was really 
sad.  3 major cables had been cut.  It looked like a side panel had been 
removed and what ever was plugged into it was not visible (may have been 
there but with out a major mining operation it was hard to tell).  After 
about 20 minutes I thanked him and left.

He had said that everything was operational before being put into 
storage.  It looks like they just grabbed, cut and generally abused 
everything even before it went into storage before receiving the 
additional indignity of significant water damage.

It's basically just scrap at this point.  Very sad.

TTFN - Guy

On 1/9/15 8:19 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
> Take pictures!
> --
> Will
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at> wrote:
>> I'm the one who's coming out tomorrow.  ;-)  So it won't be going for scrap.
>> TTFN - Guy
>> On 1/9/15 5:25 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
>>> On 1/9/2015 10:43 AM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote:
>>>> I believe these are the same ones advertised a year or so ago.
>>>> Lyle and I went to see them and found a storage building piled
>>>> to the ceiling with stuff. It was impossible to see what was actually
>>>> there, though what could be seen had heavy water damage and
>>>> looked to be in bad shape. At the time he was asking $5000 for
>>>> it all so we just walked away. Might be a lot cheaper now.
>>>> Bob
>>>> On Friday, January 9, 2015 10:27 AM, Jason T <silent700 at> wrote:
>>>>> Not mine, not near me, not known to me:
>>> I talked to the owner for quite a while tonight and got some information.
>>> He is very interested  in moving it and is sending photos.  He said someone
>>> is coming to take a look at it  tomorrow in Freemont.  I will post the
>>> photos he sends me tonight.
>>> I hope someone buys it for other than gold.  I am not set up to address
>>> this sort of a deal myself, and am passing the info along to who may be able
>>> to.
>>> I told him about cctalk and ibm vintage lists, so if you are on that, that
>>> is the secret handshake as far as what I told him, vs. a scrap dealer.
>>> Thanks
>>> Jim

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