Bay Area: IBM 4341 and HP3000

Lyle Bickley lbickley at
Fri Jan 9 20:38:47 CST 2015

On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:25:26 -0800
jwsmobile <jws at> wrote:

> On 1/9/2015 10:43 AM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote:  
> > I believe these are the same ones advertised a year or so ago.
> > Lyle and I went to see them and found a storage building piled
> > to the ceiling with stuff. It was impossible to see what was
> > actually there, though what could be seen had heavy water damage and
> > looked to be in bad shape. At the time he was asking $5000 for
> > it all so we just walked away. Might be a lot cheaper now.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On Friday, January 9, 2015 10:27 AM, Jason T <silent700 at>
> > wrote: 
> >  
> >>
> >> Not mine, not near me, not known to me:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >  
> I talked to the owner for quite a while tonight and got some 
> information.  He is very interested  in moving it and is sending 
> photos.  He said someone is coming to take a look at it  tomorrow in 
> Freemont.  I will post the photos he sends me tonight.
> I hope someone buys it for other than gold.  I am not set up to
> address this sort of a deal myself, and am passing the info along to
> who may be able to.
> I told him about cctalk and ibm vintage lists, so if you are on that, 
> that is the secret handshake as far as what I told him, vs. a scrap
> dealer.  

When Bob and I initially talked to the owner, he told us that what he
had was a major find for a collector. He spoke in glowing terms as to
the condition of the 4341 and the HP mini (de-installed from a
running environment and then stored for many years). So as you would
expect, Bob and I were very anxious to see both systems.

What we found was a serious disappointment. As Bob said, the 4341 and
the HP mini were crammed into a storage unit with lots of other junk.
It was impossible to see/determine what system components were
actually there. There was no way to know how complete or what features
either system had.

Repeating what Bob said, everything was water damaged, rusty and in poor
condition - and I do mean everything.

We told him that his asking price was too high - and that the condition
of the systems was so bad we wouldn't even make him an offer.


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