PDP-11/70 progress (and a cry for help)

Josh Dersch derschjo at gmail.com
Sun Feb 21 03:33:13 CST 2021


On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:45 AM Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I hooked the LA up to the two PROM bits that select the AMX input (RACC
> UAMX00 H and RACC UAMX01 H), on the ROM & Address Control board.  These
> come from the PROM at U101 and go through a 74S174 at E97 before heading
> over to the DAP board.  And during FET.00 we have:
>
> Addr PCB PCA AMX
> 260  44  44  0
>
> "0" here selects DR (Destination Register) input to the mux and is
> incorrect; it should be 1 (PCB).  During a single-instruction-step run,
> this value reads out OK on the analyzer.  I noted a few other discrepancies
> in the capture (all of which match the ucode listing during a
> single-instruction step) which makes me think that the high outputs of the
> PROM are right on the bleeding-edge of acceptable TTL.  I checked out the
> signal on the scope while running a BR .-1 instruction (which also doesn't
> execute correctly but at least doesn't halt... I don't have a storage scope
> to capture this during a single instruction execution) and it looks like
> the voltage swing is from about 0.15V to 1.7V or so.
>
> On the off chance it was the 74S174 at E97 pulling the signals down, I
> socketed it and substituted a spare '174 in; no change.  I also noted that
> the +5V at this chip was about 4.95V, I goosed it up to 5.10V to see if it
> made a difference (it did not.)
>
> So it seems likely it's the PROM.  Looks like I may have some typing to
> do, though given that the ROM works well enough at slow speeds I might be
> able to dump it with my Data I/O Model 29 and compare it against the
> listings in the engineering drawings, to save some time...
>
> I'll try to dump the PROM tomorrow and see what I get.
>
> - Josh
>


A status update here:

I've dumped the bad PROM at U101 (and it read out fine on my Data I/O 29,
comparing it with the listing in the engineering drawings).  A local friend
had a spare 11/70 boardset, so while I wait for some (hopefully) NOS
bipolar PROMs to arrive, I've installed a spare RAC board.  With this
installed, instructions execute much better, and after tracing down a
faulty Unibus terminator, I got it to run the bootstrap PROM on the M9301!

I used my Unibone to boot XXDP+ from an emulated RL02 pack and over the
past week I've been running diagnostics and debugging the hardware.  Thus
far:

- Unibus Map registers non-functional:  addresses decode but writes have no
effect and all reads come back as "0". Replaced bad 8640 bus receiver on
the Unibus Map board.
- EMKA memory diagnostic hangs the processor in t5 of uAddr 343 (IRD.00),
in PAUSE.  Traced it down to the HC42 (replaces the original Cache Control
Board) board of the Hypercache boardset, lacking any engineering info I
swapped this for a spare that I'm fortunate enough to have.

The system is now passing all but two diagnostics:
- EMKA reports strange errors in banks 50-57 of memory and only with
pattern 17; all other banks test fine:
MEMORY DATA ERROR
  PC    BANK  VADD     PADD     GOOD     BAD     XOR  MAR BOX MTYPE INT PAT
ARRAY
032334   50  157564  05077564  000377  000377  000000  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032334   50  156450  05076450  000377  000377  000000  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032334   50  155330  05075330  000377  000377  000000  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032334   50  154210  05074210  000377  000377  000000  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  154020  05074020  000377  177777  177400  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153740  05073740  000377  177777  177400  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153734  05073734  000377  177777  177400  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153732  05073732  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153730  05073730  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153726  05073726  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153724  05073724  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153722  05073722  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153720  05073720  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??
032342   50  153716  05073716  000377  177400  177777  0   ?   MJ11  ?   17
 ??

Occasionally testing banks 50-57 will die with a trap to 4 instead.
Pattern 17 tests using alternating patterns of "0" and "1" bytes, using
byte accesses to memory, I'm curious why only this pattern would fail.
Accesses to this area of memory from the console work fine

- EKBD fails with:

ADDRESS MULTIPLEXER, AMX, CPU INPUTS TEST FAILED.
ERROR ADDRESS REGISTER NOT SET CORRECTLY.
  TEST. CALL AT PC.     EXPECTED ADRS.  GOT ADRS.       ERROR REG.
     5  00007524        06000000        05777776        144406

(Note the similar address range to the EMKA failures).  I've verified that
AMX, etc. are not to blame here.  I suspect this issue is related to the
memory issue above.

I've looked at the MMU hardware to see if address generation is breaking
for some reason at these addresses and it seems to be OK.  I'm going to
keep poking at this, but the complexity of the PEP70 memory board plus the
lack of hardware docs is going to make this a challenge.  If anyone has any
bright ideas, let me know.

I suppose that worst case I still have a megabyte or so of contiguous
working memory; I can modify the memory size jumpers and patch operating
systems to ignore the rest.  Better than nothing!

Anyway: I'm pretty happy with the progress here, I wasn't expecting this to
go as smoothly as it has (knock on wood) for a computer in as sad shape as
it was.  Total carnage here: 4 bad ICs, one dead clock crystal, a dead
Unibus terminator, and a marginal HC42 board.  And a few slightly dirty
backplane fingers... Gives me hope for the 11/45...

- Josh


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