Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

Tony Aiuto tony.aiuto at gmail.com
Mon Aug 2 19:21:28 CDT 2021


You are conflating the OS kernel with the developer A

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:11 AM Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 04:21, Tony Aiuto via cctalk
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would argue that this is totally wrong. iOS,
>
> Which is a Unix. Derived from Mac OS X, which is an Open Group certified
> UNIX™.
>
> > Android
>
> A Linux distro.
>
> > and other mobile
> > systems,
>
> QNX as in Blackberry 10? A Unix.
>
> Jolla Sailfish? Meego? Tizen? Samsung Bada? Huawei Harmony OS?
>
> All Linux.
>
> > with decidedly different user experiences and programming interfaces
>
> Sure, yes. Still Unices underneath, though.
>
> > As we get
> > better a consumer level  containerization and sandboxing, more end users
> > are seeing chimera's like Android apps running under ChromeOs
>
> Linux apps running under Linux: more proof that Linux is Linux, ISTM.
>
> > or Windows
> > apps on macos and Linux.
>
> WINE is pretty good these days. I use it for several things.
>
> There are basically 2 OS families left for general-purpose computing:
> Windows NT and UNIX.
>
> DOS is dead. Netware is dead. OS/2 is very very nearly dead. BeOS is
> dead; Haiku is alive and developing but very niche.
>
> RISC OS is alive but very niche.
>
> AmigaOS is not well at all and even including MorphOS and AROS it's as
> niche as RISC OS or more so.
>
> Symbian is dead. NewtonOS is dead. Classic MacOS is dead.
>
> CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and
> seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would
> claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is dead although I think Toshiba
> just about supports 4680 and 4690.
>
> VMware was originally based around Linux although the company tried
> hard to cover that up. Xen is alive and well but it's not a GP OS, I'd
> say.
>
> I'm struggling to think of anything else. There are things but they're
> even more niche than say Haiku. Redox OS? Genode? HelenOS?
>
>
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