DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ
John H. Reinhardt
johnhreinhardt at thereinhardts.org
Wed Apr 7 13:08:54 CDT 2021
On 4/7/2021 10:43 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:53 AM Jonathan Stone <kiwi_jonathan at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Google Shopping shows the PA2067 MMJ die available at 3 online stores. Digi-Key lists it too.
>>
>> What are the pros and cons of the die and a PA8000 CrimpALL, versus the IEC tool ( https://iec.net/product/modular-crimp-tool-for-rj11-dec-mmj-connectors/) ? If one either already has an RJ45 crimp tool; or doesn't have any crimping tool at all?
> I can't answer the question about how the Paladin / Greenlee / Tempo
> Communications PA8000 CrimpALL + PA2067 MMJ die compares to other
> crimping tools. I don't have any first hand comparison knowledge.
I have two of the Paladin Crimpall handles. I keep a DEC MMJ die (PA2067) in one and the other gets swapped with RJ45 and RJ11/12 as needed. They work well and the ratchet handle allows a good amount of crimp pressure.
> As far as availability of the PA2067 dies, Mouser and DigiKey say
> Obsolete and none in stock. The PA8035 (PA8000 with PA2067) that I
> have I bought from Online Components. They now show none in stock for
> both the PA8035 and PA2067.
>
> While there might be some of these floating around in inventory
> somewhere, I'm skeptical that most that show up in search results for
> online stores are actually available. Most likely if an order was
> placed it would be canceled after a few days when the seller realizes
> they have none in stock and they can no longer order any from the
> manufacturer.
There are lots of sources for the crimper handles. Look for the PA1300 and PA8000 as typical examples. But the dies are fading. As Glen mentions, the hits you get for the PA2067 from Google are all false hits. The most promising one I found was Gordon Electronics, but I confirmed with a phone call this morning that it is a non-stock item that they have to order from the factory - so no go there. I have looked at the GreenLee and Tempo web sites and there is very little mentioned. Tempo has a "Discontinued Items" section and you will find the crimper handles and dies listed. I don't know when they went out of production. My assumption is that Paladin was bought by Greenlee and then sold to Tempo as it seems Tempo is the most recent source. In any case, the DEC MMJ die is virtually extinct in the wild and the others seem to be going away also.
I've ordered the IEC crimper to see what it's like and to have a backup in case something happens to my Paladin. Hopefully, it is a good tool and IEC keeps it in production as it seems to be the only source now.
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John H. Reinhardt
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