early PDP-11/45 info sought

Jay Jaeger cube1 at charter.net
Sun Jan 27 21:07:25 CST 2019


I think I can help some.  I have a PDP-11/45 From U. Wisc. ECE that
claims to be S/N 1525 .

*  I do NOT have an actual wire list, it seems, but I will hunt a bit
more tomorrow or Tuesday.

*  I DO have earlier PDP-11/45 CPU drawings, but no ECO info


Here is what I have for drawings:

B-DD-11/45-0-AJ  Basic Assy (PDP11/45)  5/72  [Not CPU Cards]
   D-CS-5409684-0-1-H 11/45 Console Board 3/72
   B-DD-KB11-A-0-AA 16 Bit Processor  May-72  [NOT CPU HERE]
      B-DD-DL11-0-K
      B-DD-KW11-0-*
      B-DD-BM873-0-F
      B-DD-KT11-C-B
      D-IC-11/45-0-1-H Power System Configuration
      K-WL-7009540-0-2 Wire List (small - only 6 pages)
      B-DD-861-0-L
      B-DD-H7420-0-E
      B-DD-H744-0-R
      B-DD-H745-0-R
      B-DD-H746-0-E
      E-CS-H754-0-1-T
   A-AL-11/45-0-3-B  Accessory List
   D-AR-11/45-0-4-C  (Rack Configurations)
   C-PL-11/45-0-4-D Arrangement Parts List
   B-DD-M9301-0-D

B-DD-KT11-C-B
[NOTE:  Use KT11-C Only with KB11-A & FP11-B,
        Use KT11-CD Only with KB11-D & FP11-C]
   [M8107, M8108]


KB11-A Engineering Drawings  [PDP-11/45 CPU]
   KB11-A-0-AA Dated May 72
   [M8100, M8101, M8102, M8103, ROM Control Listings for M8103,
    M8104, M8105, M8106, M8109, M8116, M930, M9202]
   NO wire list

(Curiously, I also have KB11-C, 11/70 drawings.)

B-DD-MF11-U-B 16K Core [M8293, G235, G114, H217, M7259 (Parity Control)]
B-DD-MS11-B-B MOS Memory [M8110, G401]
B-DD-MS11-C-B Bipolar Memory [M8110, M8111]
B-DD-MS11-C-C Bipolar Memory (ECO MS11C-00003)  Mentions M8120

B-DD-FB11-0-A FP11-B Floating Point Processor  March 72
   [M8114, M8115, M8112, M8812 ROM Control Listings, M8813]

B-TC-FP11-C-6 FP11-C (Print Set MP00038)  December 75
   [M8126, M8127, M8128, M8129]

DEC-11-HFPAA-C-D  FP11 Floating Point Processor Maintenance Manual
DEC-11-FP11C-MM-001 FP11-C Floating Point Processor Maintenance Manual
EK-KT11C-MM-005  KT11-C, CD Memory Management Unit Maintenance Manual
EK-MS11A-MM-006  MS11-A,B,C memory System Maintenance Manual

PDP-11 Systems Course Training Drawings
PDP-11/45, 11/70 Maintenance Course handout book

And some diagnostic listings for the 11/40 and 11/45.

I have not looked through my fiche for ECO info, though I am not
hopeful, but will look tomorrow.  Most of my fiche are too modern.

Let me know what you want me to scan - should be able to get to it later
this week.

JRJ


On 1/27/2019 6:40 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote:
> Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here will know that I've gotten to some corners of my 11/45 CPU now that don't match up with the commonly available engineering drawings.
> 
> My /45 is an early serial number (#152).  So far I've verified hardware differences on at least my M8100 and M8105 cards and spares, relating to parity error abort handling.  I would really like to track down any of the following resources:
> 
> - PDP 11/45 system engineering drawings *earlier* than those currently available on bitsavers (Jun '74)
> 
> - Any PDP 11/45 backplane wire list (what looks to be a wire list in the currently available engineering drawings is actually only a breakdown of the power harness.)
> 
> - PDP 11/45 ECO information, particularly the following:
> 
>     M8100  00003
>     M8103  00005
>     M8105  00005
>     M8106  00007, 00008, 00012, 00012A
>     M8110  00008
> 
>     KB11-A 00015
> 
> Bitsavers seems to have a DEC-O-LOG for M8105, but this does not contain specifics on cuts and jumps for ECO 00005, referring only to the associated "kit".  DEC-O-LOGs for the other processor boards are missing.
> 
> If anybody thinks they might have any of this info squirreled away anywhere, I'd really love to find out more about it!
> 
> Parts of the ECO's are pretty easy to figure, just by comparing the state of my existing boards to the '74 drawings.  But other parts not so much...
> 
>     thanks much,
>       --FritzM.
> 
> 
> 


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