Mystery HP 1000 board
CuriousMarc
curiousmarc3 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 16 02:01:16 CDT 2016
Well what the heck, found it, we have one right here in the CHM collection!!! It's part of an HP 5451C Fourier Analysis system, and there are quite a few other bits needed besides the HP-1000 and its many weird cards! I think I saw them from the guy that I bought the HP 1000 from. I might go back.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102692715
A later revision of the 5451A system I had found below with the nice lady picture.
Marc
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From: CuriousMarc [mailto:curiousmarc3 at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 11:54 PM
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Cc: 'Marc Verdiell'
Subject: RE: Mystery HP 1000 board
Suspicion confirmed, inspecting other cards of the machine, the cage is full of many mystery interface cards 05451-20025. I'm not sure yet of what the many cards do, but The HP 5451 was a 1972 Fourrier Analysis system that was implemented with an even earlier, core memory version HP 2100 processor. I recommend the picture of the system below, that's one of the best pictures of an 2100 system I have ever seen ;-)
http://spherik.tumblr.com/post/98803997123/hewlett-packard-hp-5451a-fourier-analyzer-1972
Wait. They even made an earlier 1970 model based on a HP 2116 (HP's first computer!) documented here, www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1970-06.pdf
Also used for low frequency spectrum analysis, here for sound and vibration.
I suspect my machine is a descendent of these early systems, haven't quite put my finger exactly on it, but getting really close.
Marc
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Subject: RE: Mystery HP 1000 board
Ah, thanks, this is getting awfully close, and jives well with Jay's recollection. Low frequency spectrum analysis using FFT seems to be the application indeed. Mentions an "arithmetic booster board" bolted to the bottom of an HP 21MX K (whatever a K-model is, never heard of it, but seems to be made of an HP 2105 model, I'll look that up) to improve FFT performance. They call the combo a "5443A" processor. That's dangerously similar to my 54427 board numbering and "booster" naming and fits right in with the 74S181 bit slice 20-bit ALU. I haven't found the particular system that would use an E-series computer, but I'll keep looking in this direction.
Marc
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Birkel
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Mystery HP 1000 board
See: http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1977-10.pdf Figure 4
Shows some of those other parts as well in the block diagram. Uses a "HP 21MX K-Series Computer".
Model 5420A Digital Signal Analyzer.
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of CuriousMarc
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Mystery HP 1000 board
You beat me! You got one hit. How did you search for that? I come up dry...
Marc
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete Lancashire
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Mystery HP 1000 board
Well there are 20 bits of ALU ....
And this guy has one and some other boards
http://nevadabarry.com/electron.html#HP%20Test%20Equipment
HP 5443
05443-60047
05443-60042
05443-60031 MIOB Interface
05443-60050 Booster Microcode
05443-60057 C (13803F?)
05443-60071 A (22803F)
NO Connection with the site/person/etc .. just passing it on
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I have one of those boards. You sent me an email about it and I
> replied a week ago :)
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> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> CuriousMarc
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:49 PM
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Mystery HP 1000 board
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> Can anyone identify this HP board (see link to pictures)?
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> https://goo.gl/photos/BBuAV1oozWNSqeUTA
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> It was at under the main board of a newly acquired HP 1000-E, next to
> the firmware board. It says HP 54427-60050 Booster Microcode. It has 5
> bitslice SN 74S181 chips at the back. So I surmise maybe it's a late
> ALU booster upgrade?
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> Marc
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