RSX-11M trouble

[Mark Matlock]

> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 20:44:26 +0200
> From: supervinx <supervinx at libero.it>
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> Subject: Re: R: RE: RSX-11M trouble
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> Il giorno dom, 03/04/2016 alle 19.33 +0200, supervinx ha scritto:
>> Il giorno dom, 03/04/2016 alle 14.59 +0200, supervinx ha scritto:
>>> Hmmm.... RSX-11Mplus 4.2 aren't recognized as TSK images by "normal" 4.2
>> Well... the files have been correctly transferred... i did a DMP on both
>> sides
>> so definitely I need a 4.2 non plus.
> I SYSGENed the 4.8 image on simh, and transferred ICP.TSK, just to do
> another try...
> 
> The newly inserted task, showed the same parameters, using TAL ...AT.,
> but issuing a @command causes the same big crash, dropping me on the
> initial ODT monitor.
> 
> I did another test, with DMP.
> Only three blocks of the original ICP.TSK are unreadable:
> o73, o107, and o177 (all numbers are in octal), with the usuale I/O
> error -101, and no mention in ELI DU0:/SH
> 
> I'm angry: the damaged ICP.TSK is TCP.TSK;3 and I did a purge to make
> room on the disk the first day I got it. Can't remember if another
> version was present...
> 
> I've a couple of questions:
> 1)VFY gives me two error I can't clearly understand. 
> 	000541,000226	owner [1,54]
> 	file is marked for delete
> 
> 	000647,000000
> 	I/O error reading file header -101
> 
> How can I associate xxxxxx,yyyyyy to a file name?
> I tried PIP /FI:xxxxxx:yyyyyy/LI with no luck

This is a good question but I do not know the answer.

> 
> 2) the .tpc images found in the net, if converted to .tap, are suitable
> for use in TU85em? Having no tape unit, I could try to install
> everything from scratch using a tape emulator.
I would use Simh to boot a BRUSYS tape then copy the tapes to make a
bootable disk.
> 
> But the best would be to have 4.2 (*not* plus) tape images or someone
> with a running installation so kind to give me the four damaged files.
> 
> VFY seems not to be able to repair the FS...
> 
> Thanks

   The closest RSX11M (not Plus) distribution I can find is an RL01 distribution of RSX11M V4.1
Since it is disk and not tape it can be directly booted with Simh and it does have a ICP.TSK
that should be pretty compatible with V4.2 since it is from V4.1 Baseline.

You can find this RSX11M V4.1 distribution at:
ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsxdists/rsx11mplus_4_0_netkit_aq-ew97b-bc.zip

It will unzip into 6 RL01 disk images and 3 update E disk images.
Below I mapped the first two disks and found a copy of ICP.TSK
on the 1 disk which is a Baseline image that should run on a range
of different hardware.

sim> sh rl
RL	RLV12, address=17774400-17774411, vector=160, 4 units
  RL0	2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_1of6_rsxm35.ax-d518e-bc, on line
	write enabled, RL01
  RL1	2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_2of6_excprv.ax-d521e-bc, on line
	write enabled, RL01
  RL2	2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_3of6_rlutil.ax-d522f-bc, on line
	write enabled, RL01
  RL3	2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_4of6_mcrsrc.ax-h927f-bc, on line
	write enabled, RL01
sim> b rl0


  RSX-11M V4.1 BL35   124.K MAPPED (BASELINE)
>RED DL:=SY:
>RED DL:=LB:
>MOU DL:RSXM35
>@DL:[1,2]STARTUP
>* PLEASE ENTER TIME AND DATE (HR:MN DD-MMM-YY) [S]: 20:36 5-APR-86
>TIM 20:36 5-APR-86
>* ENTER LINE WIDTH OF THIS TERMINAL [D D:132.]: 
>SET /BUF=TI:132.
>ACS SY:/BLKS=512.
>@ <EOF>
>
>mou dl1:/ovr/pub/vi
Volume Information
Class:       Files-11
Device:      DL01
Volume label:EXCPRV
Pack serial: 00000273341
Owner:       [1,1]
Protection:  [RWCD,RWCD,RWCD,RWCD]
Default:     [RWED,RWED,RWED,R]
Processor:   F11ACP
>ins $pip
>pip [1,54]i*.tsk/li


Directory DL0:[1,54]
22-APR-83 18:16

ICP.TSK;1           142.    C  22-APR-83 17:48
INI.TSK;1           58.     C  22-APR-83 17:48
INS.TSK;1           60.     C  22-APR-83 17:48

Total of 260./260. blocks in 3. files

from the RL01 image you should be able to PUTR read and then write to an RX50
as you have done before.

Good Luck,
Mark